7/13    Anybody on soda using bill pay services like http://paymybills.com or
        http://paytrust.com?  How do you like it?  I want to sign up, but I can't
        get past the trust issue.  The idea of somebody looking at my credit
        card or phone records spooks me.
        \_ Those companies are lame.  Yo can always get the same services
           like that from your own bank.  Most banks offer for free if
           you meet certain criteria such as minimum balance or auto-direct
           deposit.
           \_ most banks offer payments.. but not receiving the bills as
              well (only a couple).  i use paytrust and like it.  only diff
              i know between paymybills and paytrust is paytrust is primarily
              a NT shop and paymybills is mostly solaris.  both have a 3
              month free trial as well (it takes 1 1/2 for your first bills
              to start showing up b/c of change of address).  whatever  -shac
                \_ Just out curiosity, why would you want a third party to
                   receive your bills?  I doubt I would want anyone to see
                   my cellular phone bills or credit card bills.
                \_ And how do you know you like it when you're not even getting
                   your own bills?!  *NEVER* give _any_ third party company the
                   right to withdraw your funds at their whim.
                   \_ it takes a month or so for your bills to start going to
                      them.  you still hafta say "pay this bill from that acct
                      and this much.."  very useful if you travel alot and
                      still want to be able to review the bills in detail
                      before paying.  you can live paranoid forever.  if you
                      use direct deposit then you already gave a third party
                      the right to withdraw funds. who fucking cares? -shac
                        \_ DD is *not* a withdraw right.  It isn't about being
                           paranoid.  It's about control of your life and not
                           giving access to your money to some bunch of fools
                           who are lucky to have Hayward degrees in art and
                           the identity thieves they hire.  Best of luck to
                           you.  I'll keep my own identity, thanks.
                           \_ every DD enrollment form ive ever seen has a line
                              that says you authorize them to withdraw funds
                              as well.. so they can cover their ass if they
                              give you too much money. -shac
                                \_ Not mine.  Not my last one or the one before.
                                   I read that stuff carefully.  Anyway, DD is
                                   still not the same as some random .com
                                   having authority to pull funds to pay people
                                   you may not want paid or just in general
                                   having too much information about you in the
                                   hands of the random people they hired.  If
                                   you were an identity thief, at what sort of
                                   company would you try to get a job?
        \_ http://my.yahoo.com BillPay is cool. 3 month free. Give it a try.
        \_ I use http://citifi.com as my bank, and I get my bills, and I use the
           webpage to have citibank cut checks and mail them to whomever.
           They do this for free.  Best deal I've found.  Total control by
           me, free, privacy equal to a normal bank.  Other benefits to citifi
           as a bank as well.
                \_ WellsFargo and BofA have this as well. Together with
                   http://paypal.com I haven't mailed a check in a while now...