6/23 I just saw something on the road which looked like an unholy
love child of a VW bug and an SUV. The only distinguishing
mark that I could read was something like "PT Courier" on
the side. WTF is it?
\_ It's the Red Bull mobile
\_ pontiac or oldsmobile
\_ Chrysler PT Cruiser. It is a sin against all that is holy.
http://www.edmunds.com/newtrucks/2001/chrysler/ptcruiser/base.html
\_ Bingo, that's it. Very impressive. Put your name down so we can
rightfully honor you for your exurberant knowledge of Fucked Up
Shit.
\_ What the hell are you talking about? The PT Cruiser is a
marketing sensation that will approach the level of the New
Volkswagen Beetle.
\_ get with the program man. That's the car everybody wants and
nobody can have. It lists below $20k but you're not allowed
to test drive it before you buy, because the test drive cars
sell the day they get in.
\_ i actually saw someone driving one of these on the road
for the first time today. why in holy fuck would anyone
want to be seen driving this horrible monstrosity?
\_ It's like an expensive subaru forester with a crappier
engine and no four wheel drive. And it looks ugly.
The front and the back are incongruous.
\_ Why require 4WD? It's in the minivan class
according to the Edmond's URL above.
\_ Built by the finest Mexico has to offer. --dim
\_ What's wrong with that?
\_ Has Mexico become synonymous with quality for
anything other than tequila and fish tacos
since last I heard? --dim
\_ uh, yeah. just like most filipinos
are typically considered the trash
of all the asian cultures.
\_ they produce cheap but potent tar heroin
\_ Wow. That is the fucking ugliest vehicle I've seen in a
long time. Just goes to show how stupid and tasteless the
typical sucker hype eating consumer is.
\_ Which is why most consumers run Windows.
\_ Exactamundo...apathy and moving with the herd..
\_ Windows is not as ugly as this car.
\_ Windows is a ugly as the Prowler, which
looks like a giant cockroach on wheels.
\_ Actually, the PT cruiser is a great concept, it is a "MicroVan",
basically a super small version of the minivan. Tons of room, zobs
of cargo space, for something roughly the size of a Neon. I think
the styling itself is, emmm, "interesting" (yeah, that's it), but
the basic drive towards maximum functionality in a given wheelbase
is cool. -nweaver
\_ that's nweaver for you
\_ Hi Tom.
\_ Functionality is not cool. functionality is functional. cool
is cool.
\_ Let me extend that: That they have taken a maximally
functional vehicle and convinced people that it is cool, is
cool, since at least these "cool" people are buying
a vehicle that is a bit more useful then these
big bloated cows called SUVs. -nweaver
\_ I'd like to see one of these match up to a
Expedition, Navigator or Suburban in a crash.
I value my life, so I drive a SUV not a little
toy. And you can cry me a river about Global
Warming and Green House gases. We all be better
off if the world was warmer and there were more
beaches. If my SUV is helping me get there, then
I've made the right choice.
\_ You are a complete moron. Chances are that
driving an SUV will *cause* you to get in a
crash. Do you have any idea how much
harder it is to stop or turn a 5500-lb
Suburban or Expedition with a high center of
gravity compared to a 3000-lb sedan with its
CG somewhere around your knee? Why don't
you go test drive some cars and some SUV's
and and put them through the same emergency
maneuvers at the same speeds and tell us
which one you think is safer. You're
probably just a poser who does all of his
driving on paved roads and drives an SUV
because you think it makes up for other
shortcomings. Puhleeze.
\_ I'll let you do the emergency
maneuvers as you try to get out
of the way of my chrome bumper
and my tires.
\_ Congratulations, thou hast been trolled
\_ Hmmm, I don't think so. There are
people who actually believe that
SUV's are safer. I take it as my
duty to make them feel stupid.
\_ don't confuse today's SUV's with ORV's
(off road vehicles). None of those
monsters with their full time 4WD can
follow my Jeep TJ when the pavement ends,
even if the driver wanted to.
\_ Really, I'll be that a hummer
could.
\_ I'm not, and that's part of the
point -- SUV's are designed to
compromise between mild off-roading
abilites and on-road abilites.
Problem is that their on-road
abilities are just good enough that
some owners think they're as good as
cars in that regard. BTW, I
have heard of Jeep Grand Cherokees
(an SUV by any definition) making it
through the Rubicon Trail.
\_ That's why SUVs are the real Windoze-like,
bloated, "go-with-the-ignorant-masses"
products. They think more about Crashing
than avoiding a crash(unix,MBZ,BMW).
\_ If I spend $50K on a shiny red
toy car, I would think about
avoiding a crash too. Since the
probablity is that you and your
little toy would end up as little
tiny specks on my grille.
\_ Its the stupid turds with thier little
Dodge (I mean Benz) and thier BMW changing
lanes without signaling, tailgating,
and engaging all sorts of bad driving
that I thought about when I got my SUV.
I would just love to plaster one of those
little 3xx BMWs or [CS]LK's on the Chrome
bumper of my SUV. Bump, "What was
that honey?", "Nothing dear, just another
BMW that tried to cut us off.", "When will
they learn?", "Hopefully never!".
\_ Hahaha! I loved the spring like winter in
the midwest and read about the 109 degree
weather in the SF Bay Area!
- midwest alum missing the Bay Area.
\_ Some of those SUVs have poor crash
records. In fact, their lack of manure-vability
may be a detriment. And they are dangerous
for the smaller, more fuel-efficient automobiles
out there, except for MBZ which does it right.
\_ You mean they are unsafe for the poor little
pissers who can't afford to buy one.
\_ I prefer to think of them as drugged elephants.
\_ Ok, so you think it's cool they convinced stupid people
to buy an ugly box with 4 wheels? Okaaaay....
\_ CSUA nerds dont know what is cool even if it bit them
in the ass.
\_ Dude, cool bit me in the ass today. That was NOT cool.
\_ SUV vs 'others' summary:
SUV driver: I'm a big wannabe-macho prick and I use my larger,
less stable vehicle to bully others.
Others: I drive an X (non-SUV) because I'm not an asshole, I
don't want to be responsible for the death of another
human being, I don't want to get into *more* crashes
than I would otherwise, I have no 'issues' regarding
my masculinity such that I need to drive a poorly
built, low-control, over-sized, zero-value, truck
with a huge price tag, I'm not a bimbo soccer mom.
\_ summary of SUV vs 'others' summarizer:
summarizer: I know what other people are interested in,
cause i'm PSYCHIC. i's gots my degree, n'all.
\_ No psychic powers needed. It was all spelled out in plain
English. Lots of stuff about running over smaller vehicles
and being 'safer' in a SUV, etc. I don't need a college
degree to read and understand basic English.
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