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2000/5/26-27 [Computer/SW/P2P, Science] UID:18345 Activity:high
5/25    set lARS Ulrich on Napster fire.
        http://slashdot.org/interviews/00/05/26/1251220.shtml
        \_ English speak go need you to school good yes?
           \_ which part of his simple sentence confused your
              fancy book-learned little head?
           \_ i think what he means is that guy just sounds dumb.  he starts
             off ok but then starts rambling a bit in fragments, and starting
             one sentence and then jumping to another. DUHeeeeeeerrrrr!:

        Lars trying to speak (typical sentence):

           I  mean, I can just barely ...
           I know how to get onto AOL, and I will say
           that I have used AOL a couple of times to check some hockey scores.

        Lars trying to speak again

          And I believe, and the people that we talk to about this, we believe,
          that the minute some of these companies become active,
          when they basically come to a point that they become fully
          funcitonal, we believe that there will be technology and a
          way to go after them in the way they can invent this technology
          and make it untraceable. We believe that as quickly as
          they can make it untraceable And I believe, and the people that
          we believe that you can find a way to fuck with it, and we
          have already heard about different ways of doing that.
          So I think it's clear that there is nothing that
          people can talk about for the future that becomes bulletproof.

        I can see what he's trying, but man, it's damn ugly grammatically...

        \_ People, give Lars a break.  Drug induced coma in which he likely
           spends most of his time aside, most people don't speak in complete
           grammatical sentences in everyday speech, and this interview is
           an unedited transcript of a phone interview.  -- ilyas
                \_ Tell us of the stars....
                \_ Yeah, he's lucky he can use a phone.  Imagine if he had
                   tried to type this up on his AOL account.  And uhm, no, I
                   don't really understand where he's trying to go when he
                   talks about the future and untraceable technology.  I'm
                   not sufficiently drugged to enter his zone of understanding.

        LARS IS A DRUMMER.  Other than dpetrou, how many rock drummers
        do you know who have any brains?
        \_ Hi, Paolo
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Newsletters - 10 TechJobs - 11 Slashdot Broadband 12 Search 13 X 14 Welcome to Slashdot 15 It's funny. Sections 23 Main 24 Apache 25 Apple 26 Askslashdot 27 Books 28 BSD 1 more 29 Developers 1 more 30 Games 10 more 31 Interviews 32 Science 2 more 33 YRO Help 34 FAQ 35 Bugs Stories 36 Old Stories 37 Old Polls 38 Topics 39 Hall of Fame 40 Submit Story 41 About 42 Supporters 43 Code 44 Awards Services 45 Broadband 46 Online Books 47 PriceGrabber 48 Product News 49 Tech Jobs At Last And At Length: Lars Speaks 50 Music Posted by 51 timothy on Fri May 26, '00 11:00 AM from the parental-guidance-suggested dept. On May 4, we asked you to suggest questions for an interview with Metallica. Lars seemed impressed by the forum that Slashdot offered and called it "a nice setup" for an interview. You don't have to agree with his conclusions, or with the actions that the band has taken, but you ignore his words at your peril. So without further ado, here are your questions, and Lars, unfiltered. 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