5/21    Any suggestions for a gym to join?  I'm thinking quality of facilities
        (e.g., new machines...pool and things like racquetball court are
        plusses) classes (frequency, variety of aerobics classes), proximity
        to Berkeley.
        \_ 24 Fitness.  It's got a million locations so I can work out close
           to home or at work.  They've got TV and obscene amounts of equipment.
           They've got beginning weight training sessions.  Whatever you do,
           though, don't sign up for a personal trainer; it's like being
           chained to a used car salesman.
           to home or at work.  They've got TV and obscene amounts of
           equipment.  They've got beginning weight training sessions.
           Whatever you do, though, don't sign up for a personal
           trainer; it's like being chained to a used car salesman.
           \_ some of them have a pool and a sauna
        \_ if you just want to lose weight, it's better to just go out and
           start jogging. All that fancy equipment won't help much. Jogging
                   chair around will really build upper body strength and it's
                   good for your heart, too.
           is free too.  Join a gym only if you do serious weight training or
           you really need a place to play ball.
                \_ Ride Bike!  -tom
                \_ You mean blow out your knees?  Good idea.  Rolling a wheel
                   chair around will really build upper body strength
                   and it's good for your heart, too.
                        \_ uh, biking is way better for your knees than
                           jogging.  -tom
                                \_ Was talking about jogging, but I do know
              \_ Gold's is now a 24 Hour Fitness.  They have really good rates,
                                   people who killed their knees biking, too.
                   \_ Most people aren't that fragile.
                        \_ Idiot.  People aren't fragile.  They simple wear
                           out from over use.  Why didn't your parents have
                     \_ Don't forget:  You're good enough, you're smart enough,
                        and gosh-darnit, people like you! =)
                           a tile kitchen floor or take you to pet the tigers?
           \_  Look, I'm asking for a gym, not weight loss advice.
               \_ Don't be shy.  You are amongst your self-loathing brothers
                  and sisters of geekdom.  We all want ... need to be buff.
                  \_ I have poor self-image too.
                  \_ We do?  I'm happy the way I am, thanks.  Always have been.
        \_ When I was at Berkeley, Gold's Gym was really nice.  - mikeym
           \_ Yeah, but what about GOD's Gym?!
                \_ Praise His Name!
           \_ Wasn't Gold's in Downtown Berkeley taken over by 24 Hour
              still a wait for everything?  do they have special accomodations
              Nautilus?
              \_ Gold's is now a 24 Hour Fitness.  They have really good rate
                 but the Berkeley one isn't great on facilities -- no pool or
                 courts.  they do have aerobics classes.
        \_ What about Ironworks on Potter St.?
                \_ What about it?
        \_ answer: whatever is the cheapest, and closest to you.
           having "all the latest" is useless, if its so inconvenient that
           you never go.
           \_ Note that few gyms actually have pools, if swimming is what
              you want.  The Y in berkeley is actually decent.
           \_ What _is_ the cheapest gym in Berkeley?
        \_ If youre a student or alum, the RSF is both cheap and has
           everything youre looking for
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                        \_ Thanks for the URL!
           \_ Do they still have lines for everything in there?
                \_ Not for the hot easy babes
           \_ this seems like the best bet -- they've got everything i need
              there (weights, machines)...plus racquetball courts.  is there
              still a wait for everything?  do they have special accomodatio
              for paying meembers?
                \_ Paying meembers?  You want a special meembership?  You
                   think you're too 318 to stand in line like the poor student
                   meembers do?