5/10    This is a question for soda RPG fans.  What are some good, hardcore
        RPGs to buy (old games ok, naturally).  I am thinking maybe the
        Wizardry Archives...  Anyone have any thoughts on how good wizardry
        games are?  Are there other recommendations?
        \_ Wizardry was pretty cool.  Rumor has it it was written in Pascal.
           Also, Ultima series, Pool of Radiance, other SSI type of Dungeons
           and Dragon Games.
        \_ Ultima 4 and 5, maybe 6.  3 on my old mac was good.
           Wizardry and SSI games, yes. You can get an SSI games
           collection that has about 12 games in it, maybe 6-8 worth
           playing, but even moslo won't help on a pentium, with those.
           Bard's Tale 3.  Maybe Darksun (1, not 2).  Fallout /
           Fallout 2 if you don't mind futuristic stuff.  Betrayal at
           Krondor was very good and is now freely downloadable. -niloc
           \_ I generally agree especially Ultima 3,4,5 and Wizardry and
              SSI games.  I forgot about Bard's Tale.
        \_ GOLDBOX!
        \_ DAGGERFALL!
                \_ Sorcerer.  100% spell absorbtion, shield spell, point at
                   ground, launch fireball.  Infinite mana.  Thus infinite
                   shields, healing, etc.  Tough character to start but a
                   cake walk after that.
        \_ The ol' Hellfire Warrior from SSI, very early 80's on the Apple
           IIe
           \_ You don't know anything about Apple //'s until you've played
              Montazuma's Revenge.
        \_ Out of the recent stuff, Fallout I and II. Download patches.
                -muchandr
           \_ Planescape: Torment beats the utter crap out of any other
              RPG released within the past few years.  -blojo
              \_ I agree, it was brilliant.  I forgot to mention it.
                 But Fallout was good.  I'd rank it second, of recent
                 games.  -niloc
           \_ Wasteland!