4/32 How much is LASIK surgery nowadays? $1500 - $4000 per eye?
\_ Look in the Guardian for an advertisement, $999 each eye.
\_ surgery in it's current form will probably be obsolete in 50
at night now because of this -- are glasses or contacts
annoying you so much that you're willing to take the chance?
years. gieven that most people posting to the motd are in their
20's, and given the inherent risk in all modern surgical operations,
unless it is life-threatening to postpone an operation until
medical technology comes of age, it is probably a good idea.
\_ Luddite. Medical technology is always improving. This is a
really stupid reason not to do it. Wait 50 years? Duh.
\_ which means they will be able to repair any unknown, long-term
complications in a few decades, eh?
\_ $2500 each at Stanford clinic. That's where they're *training* all
the other local quacks that are doing it for $50/eye. You want to
have your eyes done by a guy who did 12 operations or 6500 prior
to yours?
\_ I had it done 6 days ago. Contact me if you want real information.
I'd stay well clear of motd on medical subjects. -jor
btw, as low as 1175 total.
\_ $1175 for BOTH EYES? No kidding? Where???
\_ Idiot. At <DEAD>make-you-blind-for-life.com<DEAD>. Don't be
cheap with your eyes. -also had lasik
\_ my last motd note - It is both cheaper and better to have
this done in Canada where more advanced lasers are
in use. Of course, you need to fly there for 2 days. -jor
\_ Yeah, and then they install the secret microchip in your
eye so that when they come invading over the border, the
black helicopter pilot just has to press a button and
they make every single too-vain-to-wear-glasses yuppie
in America BLIND!!! Wake up before it's too late!!1!
\_ Slashdot had an article on how to hack that.
\_ Night vision problems!
\_ Not for everyone. If you vision is bad enough you couldn't see
anyway. Do your own research.
\_ one of my friend's father has this problem and can't drive
at night now -- are glasses or contacts annoying you so much
that you're willing to take the chance?
\_ I agree. Its kinda stupid to be taking such a big chance
on your eyes. Without your eyes most tasks are incredibly
difficult. Just stick with glasses. Buy Armani frames if
you think that glasses make you look dorky.
\_ Spoken by a nonathletic geek, no doubt.
\_ Someone told me Cadillacs have night vision stuff built
\_ I haven't? -- ilyas
into the windshield. I didn't follow up on that, but that
sounds kind of cool. -- ilyas
\_ mounting an infrared camera and display on your car
is the kind of nerdishness that's the reason why
you haven't gotten any, ilyas. tell us about the stars.
\_ Why do you think nerdishness is unattractive?
-- ilyas
\_ What, you mean besides the b.o., zits, and dime-
sized dandruff flakes that are usually
stereotyped alongside 'nerdishness'?
\_ sounds like a scam to turn a $200 windshield replacement
into a $1500 dealer-only job to me
\_ Actually, it uses an infrared camera and projects the
image onto the windshield, in a HUD-like manner
\_ that makes much more sense, but then the
real question remains: why?
\_ I think this feature is not only cool, but
useful. Lots of people drive with broken
lights, and lots of things that can appear on
the road at night don't have lights at all.
-- ilyas
\_ I'm acutally thinking about getting a
Cadillac for this feature. I feel kinda
bad since I have been a loyal Lincoln
driver for several years. I saw the NV
in use and it is extermely useful if
you drive in areas that are not well
lit at night (eg boulder creek)
\_ An eye for an eye.
\_ A twink for a twink.
\_ A penis for a... er...
\_ yermom
\_ A chicken in every pot, Windows on every box.
\_ Furthermore, there are no studies which show the long term
affects (probably because the procedure has only become popular
lately). Also, you should *not* have this procedure done if
you have a significant chance of your correction changing (i.e.
you are young).
\_ It's been done in Europe for years. Stop FUDding.
\_ Oh, so the doctors who've been doing it for years are
going to perform it on your eyes? And there are studies
which show what the long term effects are? Please, list
the sources and I'll apologize.
\_ Yup. Do your own research. It's your eyes. I
don't care if you wear glasses, contacts, go blind,
or swallow a shit stick and die. I sure as hell
don't require your apology to feel good about my
decisions, knowledge or anything else. Are you the
same fool that wanted the plot summary left in /tmp
so others could _prove_ something to you?
\_ The request on the motd was for useful
information. If you don't want to provide it then
shut up. I was balancing the over-optimistic
advice with cautionary advice. If you're pulling
your opinion out of your ass, then you're not
doing this guy a favor. If you have reason to
believe that I'm wrong, please show me wrong and
I and others might get useful information.
Otherwise, your opinion isn't worth the bits that
record it.
\_ Idiot. Go to Stanford's clinic. That's
where they're _teaching_ all these other
surgeons how to do the procedure. They've
done *thousands* of them with a 99.9%
success rate. Go fucking pick up the phone
and call them. There's no URL. This is
the real thing you sky-is-falling asshole.
\_ 10 years, in fact.
\_ That's not long term.
\_ Life has risk. Wear your glasses if the risk is
too great for you. I'm happy with my eyes. If
you're happy as you are, don't do it.
\_ Yeah, life has risk. I'll just run out in traffic
blindfolded since crossing the street is risky.
Thanks for your useful help.
\_ That's a non-reply. Back to rhetoric 10
to learn how to create a reply that isn't
strawman garbage. |
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