Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 17833
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3.22a   Related to below, somwhat:
        So, BSD is more secure than linux because there are more rootkits
        available for linux?  Don't we also have to narrow it down to what
        is running, daemon and userprocesses?
                \-i didnt say the above. i said "more linux machines are
        broken into then BSD machine" --psb
        \_ BSD is more secure because it isn't a kiddy toy.  On every interview
           I go to where they're using linux, I ask why linux instead of some
           thing else such as bsd or solaris, etc, and they never know.  It's
           just that linux is cool and they don't know anything else.  Good
           hype and PR and no backbone just like MS.  Linux = the MS of the
           unix world.  There's better but nothing kewler.
                \-i didnt say the above. i said "more linux machines are
        broken into then BSD machine" --psb
        \_ ah but is that just because there are statistically less BSD
           machines? I don't wnat to start a holy war, because I'm just
           trying to decide what's best to put on a laptop right now
           freebsd or linux, the only port open would be sshd on either
           i was going to go with linux because of driver support - paolo
                \-there are "statistically" more linux rootkits --psb
           \_ Linux. Friends of my at work who use FreeBSD on laptops
              (dell, toshiba and ibm thinkpads) say that Linux has better
              driver support for PCMCIA cards like ethernet and scsi. Also,
              linux supposedly has better support for the onboard video
              cards in some of the older toshibas and thinkpads. And Linux
              is somewhat better with the power management bios (apm).
              \_ This is generic bullshit.  Check the supported cards list and
                 if BSD supports what's in your laptop, then use it.  If you're
                 lazy, sloppy, and stupid, you'll RIDE BI-- I mean USE LINUX!
                 just because "friends of my at work say...".
                 \_ Linux is easier to install on laptops than FreeBSD, and
                    its device support for "end-user" gadgets such as
                    PCMCIA and sound cards is better and more straightforward;
                    however, once I got it working on my laptop, I found
                    FreeBSD a lot nicer to work with in terms of reliability
                    and transparency.  -John