3/8     How come everything I vote for gets defeated and everything I
        vote against passes?
        \_ Um, because you're (by definition) in the minority?
        \_ Because you're a leftist and normal people are retaking the
           country.  Maybe we need to pass an initiative giving lefties 10
           votes for every normal vote?  A sort of affirmative action for
           leftists at the ballot box?  Then maybe some of that garbage
           will pass.
           \_ You laugh, but a person I know suggested just that.
              \_ Was he a leftist? Its the sort of thing that a leftist
                 would suggest. And when did we start calling them leftists
                 rather than using proper terms like PUTRID COMMIE SCUM
                 or REDS?
                 \_ Commie mutant traitors!
                 \_ that menace has passed. The current watchwords should
                    probably be: QUEER GODLESS BONDAGE FAERIES!
           \_ "normal people are retaking the country." this is one of the
              more ridiculous delusions I've heard from a conservative for a
              while.  Thinking that people should be free to choose who they
              marry, whether or not a woman should have the right to choose
              to have a baby or not makes us black-blooded pinko commie reds.
              Oh, the moral degradation.  Society is going to crumble under
              the torrent of porn and bomb-making instructions that the
              subversive liberals are unleashing over the internet. Man, I
              guess everyone should want to be a normal, red-blooded,
              church-going, other-hating, trolling white male like you. -dans
              \_ Uh oh, the lefties are sticking words in someone else's mouth
                 again.  Where did I say anything about the right to choose?
                 Lost on the marriage proposal by crushing numbers so you have
                 to duck and weave and change the topic?  Typical Clintonite.
                 No one said anything about internet first amendment rights or
                 going to church or being white or being male or church going
                 or anything else.  How easy to stick a label on something to
                 make it easily smearable rather than talking openly and
                 honestly about your agenda to bring about a 'do anything
                 you want and screw everyone else' society.  You need some new
                 labels.  Your old labels are all worn out and used up.  No one
                 cares about your thought control 'political correctness' crap
                 anymore.  Thankfully the poison of SF hasn't spread to the
                 rest of the state and now it's clear it never will.
                 \_ All I did was extend your (flawed) logic out to its
                    natural conclusion.  If you don't like that conclusion,
                    perhaps you should rethink your assumptions.  And, since
                    you're talking about putting words in peoples' mouths and
                    slapping labels on people, how did I begin a Clintonite,
                    and a typical one at that?  As usual, your logic has more
                    holes than swiss cheese.  Let me know when you have a
                    well reasoned argument instead of "you called me a name,
                    I'm telling on you!" for a response. -dans
                        \_ No. You brought up isues and claimed they were my
                           positions and then slammed me for them.  Tell me,
                           who'd you vote for in the last 2 elections?  Was it
                           Bush/Dole, Clinton/Clinton, or the Communist party
                           candidate?
              \_ yeah, whatever happened to "to each his own"?
                 \_ But, honey, if people of the same sex can have loving
                    marriages, it will reveal what a truly shallow and weak
                    relationship we have, and then I'd have to divorce you.
                    Now get back down there.
                        \_ Have a cookie, troll.  Now go run along and play.
                 \_ Have your own.  Don't call it marriage.  Go pass a bill
                    to give yourself the same civil rights but don't call it
                    marraige.  You'll get higher taxes, divorce court, child
                    support issues and all the rest of it.
                   \_ Um, child support?
                        \_ You weren't aware gay people can both adopt children
                           and are still biologically capable of it as well?  I
                           said child support and meant it.  Think it through.
                           \_ Yeup. Now hopefully we can pass a law to stop
                              that travesty of nature as well.