2/18    Where's a good place in Berkeley for an oil/filter change?
        \_ Do it yourself, it's not very hard (about 20 minutes) -- ilyas
           \_ Maybe they don't care to?  Maybe the $30 is worth it to not
              spend the time and crawl around under a car?  Not everyone is
              dirt poor.  My cheapest outfit is worth more than that without
              oil and dirt on it.  My time is worth more as well.
              \_ It's a useful skill to know.  By the way, you DO know that
                 you don't even need to use jacks on most modern cars when
                 changing oil, right? -- ilyas
                 \_ I don't care.  It isn't useful.  I don't *have* to know.
                    It isn't important.  I'm not a starving student.
              \_ Why do you have to be so insolent about it? how does it
                 feel to know that "dirt poor" people who get their hands
                 dirty *gasp* at work are laughing as they charge you $30
                 for a job that costs a few bucks at most and takes 5
                 minutes of their time?
        \_ There's a place on the east side of San Pablo just a bit north
           of University (I think it's right next to a burger place) that
           does oil changes for $13.  That price might have been a special,
           though.
                    \_ It may come in useful someday.  It isn't a waste of my
                       time because I, personally, find a certain pleasure in
                       finding out a little bit about how my car (or any other
                       mechanical/electronic device I own) functions. -- ilyas
                        \_ Knowing how to change a tire in the middle of the
                           desert is useful.  My oil?  I'm glad you have the
                           time for the trivial.  Someone should.
           \_ Hey ilyas, hope you dispose of your used oil nicely. --enviro
              \_ I covered the nearest baby seal I could find with it. -- ilyas
                 \_ ilyas!  Surely you remembered to whack it with your
                    club before you left?
                 \_ thanks. but seriously...! --enviro
                        \_ So how is a good way to dispose of used oil?
        \_*not* campus auto care.  They overcharge.