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2000/2/1 [Transportation/Airplane, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:17393 Activity:insanely high
2/1     Gee, how many planes have crashed in the past 12 months?  Seems like
        it has happened much more frequently than before.
        \_ No more so than usual and still far less than linux boxes crash
           going by the numbers.  I'd rather fly than use linux.
           \_ Oh, this is utter bullshit. In last two years only two Linux
              boxes crashed on me and it was because of either hardware
              problems or power failures (fucking up my disks).
              linux than to a 737.
           \_ Oh yeah, Linux is really known for crashing.  If someone asked
              me what OS I thought of when I heard the word "crash" then Linux
        \_ Let's see, recent major US plane crashes:
           \_ i've been using linux for 2 years and the most that has
                2000: Alaska Airlines, off coast of LA
                1999: EgyptAir, off coast of Mass.
              linux than to a 737 (actually, i don't trust my life to either
                1996: TWA, off coast of NY
                \_ So you'd fly with Linux Airlines and die only once per two
           Yeah, I see the trend, really....
           \_ what about JFK and those small airplanes?
                        \_ There is a trend there - don't fly overseas - stay
                           in the states and you'll be safer.
                \_ Do missile attacks really count?
                \_ http://www.PlaneCrashInfo.com for the full list
                        \_ I was keeping a list of VMS crashes across the
                        \_ I was keeping a list of Ultrix crashes across the
                           U.S. but ran out of disk space so I dropped the
                   consumer level OS such as linux or windows to not crash.
                           security breaches due to bugs or misconfiguration
                   your linux lifespan would be a few months.  Fly the friendly
                           and then compressed the rest.  Looking for disk
                           webmaster@http://www.VMS.com to donate disks,
                           donations to continue the project.  Please contact
        \_ No more so than usual and still far less than VMS boxes crash
           going by the numbers.  I'd rather fly than use VMS.
           \_ Oh yeah, VMS is really known for crashing.  If someone asked
              me what OS I thought of when I heard the word "crash" then VMS
                           webmaster@<DEAD>www.Ultrixcrashinfo.com<DEAD> to donate disks,
                \_ VMS fanatics are so cute when they're defending their
                           money, or time!  Thanks!
        \_ No more so than usual and still far less than Ultrix boxes crash
           going by the numbers.  I'd rather fly than use Ultrix.
           \_ I can see airlines using VMS. "Oh, we found a defect, but
           \_ Oh yeah, Ultrix is really known for crashing.  If someone asked
              me what OS I thought of when I heard the word "crash" then Ultrix
           \_ i've been using VMS for 2 years and the most that has
              would be it.  Not some OS from Redmond.
                \_ Ultrix fanatics are so cute when they're defending their
              VMS than to a 737 (actually, i don't trust my life to either
                   cute little OS.  I really like the "everything looks like
                        \_ VMS users have over a 99% chance of experiencing
                   a nail" mentality.
                   \_ The hoary "cute... immature" insult is your hammer.
           \_ I can see airlines using Ultrix. "Oh, we found a defect, but
              we patched it almost immediately (go Open Source)!. So just
                \_ So you'd fly with VMS Airlines and die only once per two
              ignore that one crash that killed 500."
           \_ i've been using Ultrix for 2 years and the most that has
              happened is one kernel panic.  that in contrast to 2 crashes
              per day when i was using windows.  i'd trust my life more to
              Ultrix than to a 737 (actually, i don't trust my life to either
              but what can you do).
                        \_ Ultrix users have over a 99% chance of experiencing
                           a kernel crash at some point.  737 users have less
                           than a one in many million chance of experiencing a
                   consumer level OS such as VMS or windows to not crash.
                           plane crash.  You sir are either suicidal or an
                   your VMS lifespan would be a few months.  Fly the friendly
                           idiot.
                \_ So you'd fly with Ultrix Airlines and die only once per two
                   years when you have that rare kernel panic?  This is a funny
                   analogy and statement to make since there's that famous
                   (in the industry) speech by the airline guy that compares
                   flight time safety vs. computer uptimes given at a computer
                   convention.  The airline guy properly shamed the computer
                   execs in attendence.  You've been in computers for, what,
                   like 2 years at most?  Don't be silly.  If my life depended
                   on it, I'd trust the airlines to keep me alive and flying
                   every single day forever before I trusted any shrink wrap
                   consumer level OS such as Ultrix or windows to not crash.
                   Your windows life span would be a few weeks at most and
                   your Ultrix lifespan would be a few months.  Fly the friendly
                   skies, it's a whole lot safer.
                \_ If a plane you were flying in were controlled by an OS,
                        what OS would it be?
                        \_ vxWorks
                           \_ The Mars Pathfinder ran VxWorks, but did the two
                              other vehicles that were lost recently also run
                              VxWorks?
                                \_ VxWorks crashed on the Pathfinder!  They
                                   had to upload an OS patch to the surface
                                   of Mars!  -tom
                        \_ A mainframe that'd been handling air traffic control
                           for year after year without failure and hard wired
                           components in the air.  That you would think an
                           airplane uses or needs an OS says a lot about how
                           little you understand about computers, embedded
                           systems, air planes, air traffic control and just
                           about anything else related to this thread.
                           \_ hey, its all hypothetical.  Its not supposed
                              to match reality.  Its like:
                                If you were a peanut, where would you like
                                to vacation?
                              The main idea in the question is:
                                If your life depended on it, what OS would
                                you use?
                                \_ Nothing you could buy in a store or download
                                   from the net.  I'd be dead within a matter
                                   of weeks, or a few months at best.  "Sir,
                                   it is my sad duty to report to you that the
                                   results of your medical tests have come back
                                   positive... you are suffering from 'consumer
                                   level OS syndrome'!"  Put me on a mainframe.
                                   The kind with multiple level of redundant
                                   backup systems for everything in there so
                                   when the nukes hit I can keep on ticking
                                   and still have the power to count how many
                                   people died per time unit in the blast.
                                \_ tell that to the people trying to use BFS
                                   today.  -tom
           \_ RIDE BIKE!  FLY LINUX!
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