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1/24 And you thought Cal reshalls were bad:
http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/93/81/01_4_m.html
\_ not that anyone reads this thread anymore, but one of the other
"great pieces of legislation" that McGrath introduced was a bill
requiring grade-school teachers to carry handguns on campus...
\_ What's wrong with that? I think *everyone* should be required
to own and maintain a firearm.
\_ Cal reshalls are totally liberal and open. Even other UC's have
more restrictive dorms. Go to a religious schools and UC
dorms seem incredibly permissive ("You can have members of
the opposite sex in your room? Wow...")
\_ coed bathrooms. nuff said.
\_ Try the USCA co-ops if you want to learn what the true
meaning of "permissive" is all about. Cal dorms are
super nazi control freaks in comparison. In fact, you
really can't fairly compare. Different worlds.
\_ Exactly. Co-ed bathing. Co-ed rooms (though I saw
that go bad one semester).
\_ What happened?
\_ The obvious: they broke up, hated each
other but had to finish out the semester
because there was no where else to go.
-ex house manager
\_ Define "co-ed bathing" por favor.
\_ Members of opposite sex engaging in sexual
foreplay/intercourse in hottub/shower/tub.
\_ Happens in Cal dorms too. Even *gasp*
Foothill.
\_ are you on crack?
\_ Uhm, no, not like the co-ops. I doubt
any dormy has ever seen a hungry post-
sex couple emerge from their cave or
the hot tub, etc, and walk naked into
the kitchen to get food and return to
fuck some more. There's more sex in
the smallest co-op houses every night
than the entire dorm system. You
really shouldn't try to put "dorm" &
"co-op" in the same sentence.
--seen it in co-ops
\_ well damn. I should have been
in the co-ops.
\_ MUHAHAHAHAHA!! (evil laughter)
\_ Speak for yourself.
-Done it in bot places
\_ Not on a co-op quantity scale. We've
had honest Presidents too. Not on
a large scale, unfortunately.
\_ Foothill? Rape doesn't count.
\_ UC Santa Cruz has the most liberal on-campus dorms by far. --dim
\_ if you ignore the fact they close off the campus at 8pm
\_ How so?
\_ Co-ed everything. Underage drinking. Rampant drug use.
Tolerance to noise. Preceptors and RAs who turn a blind
eye to (or participate in!) parties and smoke-outs. I've
heard it's more strict now that they had some "problems",
though. I can't confirm. Cal seemed Fascist in
comparison. We always had to be secretive here. --dim
\_ Back when I did that kind of thing, I used to smoke
pot with my RA all the time -- what's the big deal?
\_ I wasn't smoking out in the Cal dorms but saw plenty
of it. What's the title for the student they put in
charge of the whole building? She was using the
freshman boys like they were going outta style.
\_ Hall Coordinators. And I was an RA, and I
drank with my Residents, but I only dated
Residents from other areas. You don't shit
where you eat.
\_ Speak for yourself!
\_ HC. That's it. Holly. She was hot.
Any pics? _/
\_ The deal is that at UCSC nobody cared. At UCB
the door had to be closed. There was always an
element of secrecy. I remember people having to
dump their beer down the drain in the shower. I
also recall an RA losing his job because he was
caught drinking with the students. At UCSC, it
didn't matter. No one cared and anything went.
It was similar to the co-ops. --dim (former USCA)
\_ Oh, hell, UCB's best policy was the I-don't-see-
it-I-don't-hear-it-I-don't-smell-it-I-don't-care
policy. Prepped me for life in the CIA.^H^H^H^H
\_ Until someone's daddy files a law suit against
UCSC. We were spending house money on acid at
my co-op. |
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| wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/93/81/01_4_m.html Jean McGrath, R-Glendale By 15 Kristen Roberts Arizona Daily Wildcat, January 21, 2000 Talk about this story PHOENIX-Under a bill proposed this week by Rep. Jean McGrath, R-Glendale, students living in university residence halls would not be allowed to have guests of the opposite sex in their rooms, except for immediate family. McGrath said yesterday she has decided to remove another provision in the bill that would have required residence hall administrators to conduct random monthly inspections of all residents' rooms for prohibited items. This is the fourth bill McGrath has submitted for this term of the Arizona State Legislature to regulate universities. The other proposals would require Arizona universities to install or subscribe to Internet filters on all campus computers, allow students to use campus Internet connections only for a "specific educational purpose," and require "accurate and complete" course descriptions in university syllabi and catalogs. McGrath said the bill regarding course descriptions is going to be replaced with a bill by another representative. She would not describe the content of the new bill or who the sponsor will be. However, she said when one bill is replaced by another, the two bills must be related. McGrath said the new bill will be discussed at the Tuesday meeting of the Public Institutions and Universities Committee, which she chairs. McGrath said she decided to strike the course descriptions bill after reaching an agreement with the universities that syllabi will be distributed within the first week of class and all required course materials will be available in campus bookstores. Greg Fahey, University of Arizona state lobbyist, spoke to oppose the first three McGrath bills in committee meetings and in private meetings with McGrath, he said. Fahey also opposes the latest proposal, saying, "we just don't need this bill" because the Board of Regents and the university administrations resolve problems as they occur. The three state universities are united in their opposition, Fahey said. He also said the Board of Regents, which met yesterday and is meeting today, may take a position on the bills now or it may wait until February. Fahey said he will be meeting with McGrath again next week. McGrath remains unswayed by student protests, including those published as letters to the editor in the Arizona Daily Wildcat. McGrath explained that because students have never had the right to use taxpayer-funded resources to access sexually explicit or personal material, taking such access away is legal. Her position is not changed by the universities' arguments that the cost of filtering and monitoring the Internet is too high and the project is too large to be practical, she said. Dean Cooley's granddaughter, who was an Internet use monitor at ASU. Another key issue for McGrath is the use of government resources, paid for by taxpayers, for personal matters, she said. McGrath responded to this scenario: a student uses a campus Internet connection to decide which political candidates to support. That person is misusing university equipment, she said, just as if she used her legislative office phone to make long-distance personal phone calls. On the other hand, the same student, viewing the same pages for a class assignment, is using the equipment properly, she said. If her bill limiting campus Internet use to a "specific educational purpose" passes, she said she believes university staff will be "smart" enough to interpret whether students are using the Internet for personal reasons or for classwork. McGrath was reluctant to predict whether her bills are likely to pass the Legislature and be signed by the governor. |