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2000/1/11-13 [Computer/SW/RevisionControl] UID:17210 Activity:very high
1/10    How do you keep more than one person from having a file open at
        the same time?  (separate but related question...) What is the
        easiest way to do version control on a unix box?
        \_ CVS.
        \_ Single-user: RCS/SCCS, Multi-user: CVS
           \_ RCS and/or SCCS dont "break" if you have multiple users.
              It just gets very inconvenient if you expect more than one person
              to be working on a particular at the same time.
              to be working on a particular file at the same time.
        \_ If you want to be hard core: cp, diff and compress.
        \_ ClearCase
           \_ I use ClearCase at work.  It's a broken piece of shit.
              (Though the UI is pretty nice, I have to admit).  -- ilyas
              \_ It's the GUI that is the broken piece of shit. All the
                 command-line utils are completely functional.
                   -- spent several months writing tools that interface with
                      it, never had any problems.
                  \_ It also costs a gazillion dollars or something. -- ilyas
                        \_ BFD.  I have a gazillion dollars in my pocket.
                           \_ Then what are you doing choosing a version control
                              tool!?  Go on permanent vacation.
                                \_ Because a gazillion dollars won't buy you a
                                   cup of coffee.  Anyway, I'm using RCS which
                                   works just fine for my needs.
                                  \_ what fucking country are YOU in, asshole?
                                        \_ The United States of America.  Last
                                           I checked, we didn't have 'gazillion'
                                           as a currency unit.
                                           \_ The U.S. also doesn't have a
                                              million as a currency unit, if
                                              you want to start splitting hairs.
                                              \_ A million is a word that is
                                                 symbolic of 1000000 units of
                                                 something.  A gazillion could
                                                 fit in my pocket and won't buy
                                                 you a cup of coffee and no I
                                                 don't feel like splitting hairs.
                        \_ There's no such thing as a gazillion dollars!
        \_ Perforce is pretty good too.
        \_ lock the file with an exclusive lock.  see flock(2)
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