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1999/12/2-6 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:16990 Activity:kinda low
i12/2   HEY IDIOT, THESE ARE YOUR PEERS, MAYBE YOU SHOULD DEAL WITH
        THEM.
        7056    akyan       7096    eyip
        7464    toddlee     7776    dana
        7888    jennylau    8112    muchandr
        8560    scharpen    10352   norby
        11120   jose        12920   glorial

        At some point, users have to deal with each other.  Relying
        on root on this machine to do that for you is childish and
        immature.  Phillip.
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        \_ Let's start an e-mail petition!!  Just add your name to the
           list and forward it to your favorite soda peers!
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        \_ We have no power over them.  empower me (with root!) and I
           will deal with them ...
        [figlet deleted]
        \_ why dont we reconfigure the local mail agents to put user
           mailboxes in user home directories?  Then we wont' need
           a separate mail partition, and user quotas are handled
           better.  -ERic
           \_ because that idea got shot down the day it was suggested
              -- cassandra
              \_ on what grounds?
                \_ On the grounds that mail hogs couldn't hog anymore?
                 \_ a moreimportant question is "By who"? and the
                    corrolary, "Where are the losers now, so we can
                    safely ignore them?"
           \_ we do this at work and it sucks.  don't do it unless the
              sendmail or equivalent is on the same host w/ the home dirs
              (not NFS mounts) and the home disks are as reliable as the
              the user mail spool disks.  otherwise mail gets lost
              and/or delayed w/ all the flaky home disk failures.
                \_ Hellloooo... soda runs sendmail on the same box as your
                   home.  Disks of the same type are about equally reliable.
                   Why would you claim the home disks are less reliable than
                   the mail disks?  Did your IT guys say, "hey! I know! Lets
                   buy refurb disks for the home dirs!  we like doing full
                   system restores!!!"?  Unlikely.  Please stop babbling
                   about the sky falling on your mail spool.
                   \_ I think he's speaking in more general terms. And
                      yes, some storage is more reliable. For example,
                      network-attached storage RAID 1/0 is more reliable than
                      flaky full-height 1991-vintage disk drives striped
                      RAID 0. You said "same type" but that wasn't
                      originally implied. --dim
                        \_ If he's speaking in general terms then he's
                           babbling spew since the topic was very specifically
                           about mail spools on soda.  Not network attached
                           raid at work, not an 8 year old disk, not some
                           bullshit scenario you're likely to conjure to make
                           a false point.  Mail spools on soda belong in
                           home directories or the spools themselves should
                           be hard quoted at a low number like 2 megs.  Deal
                           with your fucking mail and it won't be a problem.
                           \_ most of the people on root either dont leave
                              their mail on soda or at least have it delivered
                              via .forward to another filesystem.
                                \_ Something others should think about.
        \_ HEY PHILLIP, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO 'DEAL' WITH OUR PEERS?  SEND
           THEM E-MAIL EXPRESSING OUR DISAPPOINTMENT AT THE FULLNESS OF THEIR
           MAIL SPOOLS?  USE THOUGHTWAVES TO COMPEL THEM TO READ THE MOTD AND
           FEEL DEEP SHAME ABOUT THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THEIR NAME APPEARS
           THEREIN?  OR PAY OUR HOMIES TO TAKE OUT A HIT ON THESE NON-PLAYAS?
            \_ Shotguns.  Phillip.
           \_ alias annoy 'echo ^G >>/dev/`who | grep \!:1 | cut -c 10-15`'
                \_ mesg n
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