Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 16811
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1999/11/2 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:16811 Activity:insanely high
11/1    How secure is the www Java ssh terminal? Can't someone still
        intercept packets going through your browser?
        \_ The real answer you're looking for is "No, not really".  Don't
           forget, the Java doesn't run on the site you got it from, it's
           like a downloaded program and is run _locally_ in your browser.
           The outgoing traffic is encrypted by the ssh code.  _However_,
           if someone really had it in for you, they could intercept the
           ssh java code as you downloaded it the first time you went to
           that URL and replace it with compromised java code.  --dbushong
                \_ or attach a debugger or read your process data via /proc...
        \_ yes, if they have root access to your machine, kill -SEGV your
           client and analyze the core file.  But that's true for any
           ssh client (not just the java version).
           \_ if you're going to be that way about it, all they have
              to do is intercept data going to/from your tty, and you'd
              never know.
                \_ I don't have a tty.
                \_ or attach a debugger or read your process data via /proc or
                   just secretly replace the ssh binary or hack the socket
                   system calls to log or . . . Short answer:  You must trust
                   root, because they can do anything they want to you.
                   \_ I don't trust root.  I only use a Macintosh because it
                      has the best security.  You never hear about Mac servers
                      getting broken into.
                      \_ That's because you never hear about Mac servers.
                         \_ What do you think Apple is running?  Mac rulez,
                            unix dr00lez@!
                            \_ soda [12] telnet http://www.apple.com http
                            Trying 17.254.0.91...
                            Connected to http://www.apple.com
                            Escape character is '^]'.
                            HEAD / HTTP/1.0

                            HTTP/1.1 500 Server Error
                            Server: Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
                            Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:21:38 GMT
                            Content-length: 305
                            Content-type: text/html
                            Connection: close

                            Connection closed by foreign host.

                            Apple is runnig MacOS?
                            \_ Netscape for Macintosh, dummy!  You dr00le!!!1
                               \_ There isn't an Enterprise for Mac.  Look
                                  at their web site.
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