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1999/11/2 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16809 Activity:moderate
11/1    Just heard of Phat Linux [<DEAD>www.phatlinux.com]<DEAD> from a non-techie
        friend, read up on it, and the whole idea seems pretty damn
        ridiculuous. Anyone have any experience? For one thing, do they
        actually emulate *nixish file permissions on FAT partitions?
        \_ Why should they emulate anything?  It's all just bits on disk,
           who cares where they store them?
        \_ Emulating Unix file permissions on top of FAT is an old concept.
           It's been available on Linux for some years; I recall that it
           was an _install option_ (UMSDOS) in the first version of Slackware
           I tried.  There are various caveats about diminished performance
           and so forth.  You can store a real Unix filesystem as a file
           within a DOS filesystem (mounted through the loopback interface)
           if you so desire -- thus avoiding repartitioning and still giving
           you a full-fledged Unix fs.  This also has performance problems,
           and requires you to mount the DOS fs normally first, which would
           require the use of an initial ramdisk if you wanted to use it as
           a root fs for Linux.  In general, a Linux install on top of a
           Windows system without repartitioning (and sometimes without
           the need to reboot for the install process) is a growing trend,
           because it's "kinder, gentler" to Windows users.  -- schoen
           \_ If you read the URL, you'd see they're not doing UMSDOS or
              screwing around with loopbacks or single files.  They are using
              the FAT filesystem as is without the UMSDOS shenannigans.  This
              is a bit more impressive than the silly UMSDOS method and also
              easier and less scary for the low tech folks who simply want to
              try out a semi-real OS.  Performance isn't an issue since any
              *nix will outperform their win98 crap on the same hardware.  They
              don't know the performance could be even higher and that isn't
              important.
        \_ it wouldn't take too much to implement writeable rockridge
           extensions.  the "rockridge" extensions are what give you unix
           permissions on a CDROM disk for example with extra hidden files
           that contain the unix filesystem meta-data.  the dos-style
           filnames act kind of like inodes.
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