10/14   Im asking again because i'm desperate: does anyone know of any good
        book on doing electronic design on the design package ORCAD?  or of
        an archive of help files or a related user group or something?  i've
        searched around the net and found nothing very useful, and the
        documentation that comes with it sucks.  thanks.
        \_ You grabbed the warez version that was on usenet two days ago and
           now can't figure out how to use it?
        \_ ive answered my own question, if anyone cares: at http://www.orcad.com/odn
           there is a database of questions and anwers on a vast array of topics\
           as well as user discussions.  thanks again to the jerk who replied
           without reading my post.
           \_ If you have the answer, why not remove your entry?  --pld