9/27    Oracle hired me 9 months ago as a developer. But all I have been
        doing since then: moving computer, installing latest shiphome
        RDBMS, run test cases, release management, and debugging. I get
        paid extremely well, but I feel very guilty for not doing
        any technical work. I think my co-workers are in the same shoes.
        Is this common in database companies?
        \_ Why do you feel guilty?  I would just feel like an idiot.  idiot.
        \_ SOOOO MANY BAD MEMORIES.  Please don't remind me.  I didn't feel
           guulty.  Just bored out of my mind.  I quit and ran away.
           Never saw my boss again.
                        \_ but what about our LOVECHILD??
        \_Poor baby. How can they do that to you. Paying you "extremely
          well" to sit around and jack off? Serious though, why feel
          guilty for the fact that you have an easy job when you should be
          worried that you ain't gaining any real knowledge/experience
          which you need to get a new job when the suits figure out that
          they can just hire 2.7 lab monkeys (give or tack .3 monkey) to
          do your work and pay them in peanuts.
          \_ Totally.  If you're not learning then you're selling your future
             for an easy job now.  Actually your job doesn't sound easy, just
             dull.  Quit or ask for something real to do.  You're withering.
        \_Maybe you think you are being paid well.  You are actually doing IT,
        QA, and whole bunch crap.  They ought to pay you well.  How much?  On
        Average, a 2 year develope should be paid 65k?  (correct me on that)
                        \_ Not in the Valley in this job market.
                           \_ 65k? thats like entry level!
                                \_ are you for realz? every 2 year software
                                   engineer's getting 80k?
                                        \_ No, please learn what "average"
                                           means.  Many make more, many make
                                           less.
                                           \_ That's not what "average"
                                              means at all...
                                                \_ The point was "average"
                                                   != "every".  The second
                                                   sentence is a seperate
                                                   statement.
        \_ You guys are missing the point. I'm suppose to be a
             DEVELOPER. Why am I doing QA, debugging, and all that
             crap? I am not complaining about my salary. I am
             merely asking whether the word "developer" at one company
             means differently than another company.
             \_ a developer working in QA is the sign of a good QA
                department. Yes, this is an appropriate place for
                a "developer". If you dont have smart people in QA,
                you end up being microsoft.
                \_ Maybe so, but do *you* want to be the schmuck in QA?
             \_ We didn't all miss the point.  A few people did say that
                   if you feel like you're wasting your time, move on.  You
                   missed the point.
           \_ So, are you feeling cheated or something?  Before you took the
              job, what did Oracle tell you your job description and duties
              would be?  Or did they just say, "you'll be a developer, sign
              here", and you just said "okay"?  Title means nothing: I have
              a friend working at IBM whose business cards say "Software
              Engineer", even though she's a *technical writer* who started
              her first programming class *ever* this week.