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9/23    When is (was) the L&S CS infosession?                   - brendal
        \_ Could you be a little bit more general?  Jeezz.  If this is a
           good deal, if it's for a CIO position in Santa Clara your getting
           ripped.
           \_ It's the motd.  It's either a sysadmin or coder job.
                   \_ besides, how many of the sorority girls on
                      campus could pass a Turing test?
        \_ I think it might be next week... I have seen rather
           more conflicting information than I'd like though. -brg
        \_ It will be on Tuesday October 5.  And I apologize for the
           conflicting info, but we had some unexpected snafus.  Flyers
           will be posted soon. -dans
        \_ why even bother?  Its all a big waste of time.
        \_ what percentage of all CS applicants get denied?
                \_ 100%
                   \_ Obviously not true.  - paolo (who used to be math)
                   \_ I think it's about 75% (deny rate). There are lots
                      of stats available... go to the infosession to find
                      out. If you're below 3.3, your chances aren't too
                      high, but you can even get in with slightly below a
                      2.9. Personally, that's why I applied under EECS :)
                      \_ yeah, you can skate by with a 2.0 while people
                         who are doing much better than you get fucked over.
                         \_ I got in with 2.1 combined with letters from
                            a number of profs.
                \_ If you come to the infosession you can find out.
                \_ No you wont.  Haven't you realized?  The infosession
                   is all about _discouraging_ people so they won't even
                   bother.
                   \_ That's a load of crap.  It's about showing people what
                      they're actually up against.  Please sign your posts in
                      the future so I know who's septic tank is leaking.
                      -dans, Interim L&S CS Infosession Czar
                        \_ "showing people what they're actually up against":
                           If *that* phrase isn't discouraging, I don't know
                           what is.  You sound a bit brainwashed.  -not the
                                same person from two posts up
                           \_ How is "showing people what they're actually up
                              against" discouraging?  If you think you're going
                              to get in with a C average, then you're probably
                              deluded.  If you think that you need a 3.5 to get
                              in, then, for the moment, you're deluded to (it
                              could get up to a 3.5, thus far it hasn't).
                              Frankly, I think that knowing what you'll likely
                              need is useful, and provides something of a
                              reality-check.  If you think that facing reality
                              is discouraging, then I feel sorry for you. -dans
                        \_ If you don't believe the L&S CS admissions committee
                        is acting in good faith in helping the CSUA to put on
                        this infosession by providing statistics and
                        counseling, then why bother even complaining about it?
                        For previous L&S infosessions we've had the EECS
                        Department Chair and most if not all of the L&S CS
                        admissions committee up in front of the crowd speaking
                        and answering questions.  It's not as if there's a
                        higher authority than that.  So this represents the
                        CSUA's best effort to get all the official information
                        about how best to approach getting in to the major out
                        to the people who need it.  And if you still don't
                        believe it, there are hundreds of schools you could go
                        to where they won't even begin to give you a hard time
                        about getting into CS. -brg
                        \_ There is a higher authority, I remember Katz saying
                           that the dean of Engineering was higher up - also I
                           remember them saying that the L&S dean needed to be
                           contacted if there were changes in the way that COE
                           doesn't get money from L&S Students in their program.
                           These guys never showed up to any L&S infosession.
                           Maybe they should? - paolo
                        \_ I stand corrected. Perhaps they should. (Perhaps
                           they just don't care...) -brg
                        \_ I don't believe that we've ever asked them.  Perhaps
                           this is a matter that we should consider addressing
                           -dans
                           \_ Right.  I'm sure they will come running just
                              an undergrad calls.  Take your own advice and
                              get a your own reality check.
                           \_ Oh deluded one:  Did I say that it was going to
                              happen like magic?  Did I say that they would
                              come running?  I don't see that in my post.  I
                              see the statement "Perhaps this is a matter that
                              we should consider addressing."  The only
                              illusion that I'm entertaining at the moment is
                              that I can convince you to pull the crack pipe
                              out of your ass through reasoned discourse.
                              Don't worry though, you're rapidly dispelling me
                              of this notion.  And, how exactly does one "get a
                              your own reality check"?  Sign your posts, and
                              learn to write a proper sentence you twink. -dans
                                \_ Do they no longer teach patience and good
                                   manners in CS anymore?  Apparently not.  Oh
                                   well.  Send me your resume.
                                   \_ "Whether 'tis nobler in the mind
                                       to suffer \ The slings and arrows of
                                       outrageous fortune, \ Or to take arms
                                       against a sea of troubles \ And by
                                       opposing end them. . ." (Hamlet 3.1)
                                       I choose not to exercise patience and
                                       manners here.  I do not stand idly by
                                       and suffer the slings and arrows of
                                       outrageous hosers.  Hamlet did.  Look
                                       where it got him. -dans
                                        \_ And being a rude jerk is getting
                                           you somewhere?  At least Hamlet
                                           didn't sound like a low grade
                                           moron.  It is possible to make a
                                           point without being an ass.  In
                                           fact, being an ass has never
                                           convinced anyone of anything,
                                           except that the speaker is an ass.
                                                --- glad I'm not you