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9/1     Wow, a 500 MHz Apple computer can run PhotoShop operations 2x
        faster than a 600 MHz Pentium 3.  What is a Velocity Engine?  That
        programmable CPU instruction thing or some superscalar thing?
        \_ If you check Adobe's web site, there's a patch for Photoshop 5.0
                                 \_ 32?
           that has optimizations for P3 processors. Now recheck those
           benchmarks again.
        \_ oh duh, it's just Apple consortium's answer to the P3 instructions;
           I wonder if there's a KNI plug-in for PhotoShop ...
           \_ This isn't an Apple chip.  This is a Motorola chip.  Apple is
              not a chip design/fab company like intel/amd/hp, etc.
              \_ yes yes, the Apple 'consortium', offhand; goddamnit, I hope
                 everybody isn't taking the behavior in the vaporware
                 discussion below to be the norm.  I sure hope the hell not.
             Jobs, just like the last time when the G3 was twice as twice, etc
                 \_ But it is the norm.  tom is involved.
        \_128 bit processing vs. 64 bit for current pc chips
                                 \_ 32? isn't Merced 64?
                                        \_ merced isn't "current", it's vapor
                                           \_ merced is silicon.
                                                \_ It's not available to the
                                                   public.  You can't buy one.
          It isn't typical to call something that _/
          is an actual manufactured part "vapor."  It is shipping
          engineering samples.  This is standard in the IC industry.
          Typically it means 6 mo. to 1 yr. before consumers get the
          part.
                \_ On the contrary, it's customary to call anything not yet
                   publically released as "vapor" - so much can change until
                   it's released, nothing before really matters.
                        \_ you're making up your own definitions.  not even
                           idiots believe that.  it exists.  not even an
                           idiot believes it won't ship.
                        \_ it's only customary among idiots.  -tom
        \_Is this benchmark real this time instead of an outright
          fabrication like with the G3?
          \_ benchmark exploitation isn't a new thing.  take matrix300
             for instance.  people were boasting 60x improvements.
             you can read all about it in the p&h book.
          \_ This is a "Steve Jobs Demo Benchmark".  I'll believe it when
             it's confirmed by multiple sources outside Steve's Reality
             Distortion Field.  In the mean time, it's just more bullshit from
             Jobs, just like the last time when the G3 was twice as fast, etc
             which it wasn't.  Steve Jobs has a Microsoft quality record
             regarding truth in advertising.  Not impressed.  Even if the
             speeds claims are real and apply across the board instead of a
             single specific benchmark, the OS is still shit under the hood.
             Stick a *nix on it and it might be ok.
                \_ MacOS X is coming.  linuxppc is here.  -tom
                        \_ "is coming".  vapor.
                        \_ Well, no, actually, MacOS X Server is here, I'm
                           running it.   -tom
                           \_ Make up your mind.  Is it coming or is it here?
                              Can I walk into compusa and buy it?  Can I order
                              it from Apple's website?
                        \_ Probably, and yes.  The client version isn't
                           here yet, but for someone with such obvious
                           brilliance, the client (which includes the
                           new Carbon API) isn't necessary.  Sign your name,
                           idiot.  -tom
                           \_ Sorry, being an idiot, I forgot to sign.  You
                              know me as... --your name, idiot.  -tom
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