8/19    So why is it that so many SV companies are formed by Stanford grads
        and nearly none by Berkeley grads?  What are they getting from their
        education that we're not?  Are we just being trained to be keyboard
        bound salary slaves for them?
        \_ NetApp is founded by a couple of berkeley guys.  The stock
           think of offhand are Cisco and Yahoo. --dim
           rocks BTW.
           \_What's the ticker. I find no such stock in symbol
             lookup. -ulysses
                \_ NTAP (Network Appliance is the full name)
        \_ Ever hear of Sun? Apple? The only Stanford companies I can
                        \_ SUN = "Stanford University Network".  It was
                           founded by 3 stanfurdites who then brought in
                           Bill Joy from UCB and gave him co-founder status.
                        \_ Apple was founded by college dropouts.  Woz didn't
                           get his degree from UCB until the late 80's.
           think of offhand are Cisco and Yahoo. Oh, and if your trollish
                                          ^^^^^
                        \_ A big chunk of it is owned by Softbank, started by
                           a Berkeley grad.
           statement is true, I would argue it has more to do with the
           environment of Stanford students independent of their choice of
           education (much like USC). That is, $$$ breeds $$$. --dim
                \_ Add Inktomi and http://sendmail.com to the UCB list.
                   \_ http://sendmail.com?  Ex-employee != Cal grad.  sendmail isn't
                                        \_ Eric Allman got his Masters in CS
                                           from UCB in 1980.  Sounds like a
                                           grad to me.
                                           \_ He wasn't a recent grad.  Brand
                                        new spanking fresh Stanford grads are
                                        starting up companies all over the SV
                                        and Cal grads are doing shit.  Someone
                                        who graduated before some of you were
                                        born is not a new grad and was from a
                                        totally different world anyway.  Even
                                        granting sendmail as a Cal started
                                        company, it's still only one pathetic
                                        company that isn't going anywhere.
                                        \_ Who cares about puny new
                                           companies that will probably
                                           fail? That's why I mentioned
                                           the big ones. --dim
                      a SV company.  It's a BA company, yes, but not SV and
                      not founded by a RCG like many Farm new grads are doing.
           \_ You joking?  There's *thousands* of SV companies big and small
              and you can only think of a few of the obvious big ones?
        \_ [spam from dim purged for ignorance and zero value content]
        \_ I'd have to agree with this.  The few Stanfurd classes I have
           taken really do emphasize managing the knowledge you're given to
           start up a company of your own someday.  Plus Stanfurd is more
           preppy in general and less focussed on crusading and more on real-
           world capitalism.