6/13 Garbage's Version2.0 kicks ass! Are there any other albums out
there that I should check out? (i.e. not neccesarily by Garbage)
\_"happy hours, golden showers"
\_ 101 Incoherent Communist Drinking Songs, by Bryan Harvey
\_ Most people who think they're commies really don't know what
communism really is. Most people are really just egalitarianists
like John Locke. Communism is actually about achieving
industrialization through totalitarianism, mind control, and
ruthless beatings like what Stalin (and to some extent, those
McCarthy dipshits) did. At any rate, BH isn't a commie, no
matter how much he thinks he is (and neither is GNU or FSF).
\_ BH isn't a true Ruskie commie. They were smarter than that and
understood communism is a failure and *can't* work.
\_ Communism works. Disneyland is a communistic entity.
You pay for the rides you want to be on with time.
\_ idiot. communism works. ENFORCED communism doesn't.
\_ Silly. Communism is contrary to human nature. It only
works in text books and eco-political theory classes.
Where has your unenforced communism ever worked for a
substantial period of time? In fact, other than the drug
culture created sex oriented pseudo communes in the 60/70s
in this country I can't think of an unforced communist
community anywhere. It's non-functional. Put up or shut
up. And no, don't try to pin the counter point on me. I
never said I was in favor of free for all zero-control
capitalism. Where's your successful unenforced communist
state?
\_ works better on a smaller scale. like collective
businesses, co-op organizations. i have direct
experiene with this stuff. and yes, enforced
communism sucks ass and won't work. in recent human
experience, what's called communism has really been
a totalarian state - not a recipie for success in a
world with such global communications as today.
\_ saying "theres no country that does this, so
it doesn't work" is NOT a proof against it.
And your "against human nature" stuff is just as valid
for nixing welfare, charity tax credits,
\_ It was stated "communism works". Prove it. I'm
in favor of "nixing" welfare. What of it? Humans
in general are greedy and selfish and jealous
(like me and proud of it).
\_ welfare is so easy to hate when you're a
privlidged berkeley student. ++clue please.
\_ the opposing viewpoints are: 1) getting
shat on is a great motivator because there's
no welfare, vs. 2) you couldn't help it,
welfare is a safety net
\_ be sure to recognize the warning signs, kids!
\_ Yeah, like viewing the world as it is might
be a bad thing. Better to stay in the
\_ it's not (a bad thing)
Ivory Pot Sticker Tower Of Self Deluded
Stupidity. Get out those rosy glasses.
\_ prove communism doesn't work.
saying "china,USSR, etc failed at communism" is
like saying "The USA is a prime example of
why democrasy can never work".
None of the above countries are truely an
example of the policical scheme they claim
to be.
This is contrary to the needs of communism. Find
a few hundred thousand Saints and communism might
work. Personally, I've been trying to get Angels
to dance on the head of a pin which seems more
useful than trying to make a functional communist
state. So far, I've gotten as many as 8 Angels to
dance at the same time which is a better track
record than communism has. Still waiting to see
an example of working unenforced communism.
\_ INFIDEL!!! HERETIC!!1! I fondly remember taking
162 from bh. Especially those nights when we'd all
gather around the big, silent bulk of the PDP-10 in
the machine room, heads bowed to its greatness . . .
then bh would pour the vodka, and we'd munch on
potstickers and talk for _hours_ about the imminent
coming of the Glorious People's GNU-LISP Revolution
that would sweep like a cleansing wave! Some nights
we'd watch Animanics and listen to the Beatles until
dawn. Then we'd shatter our vodka glasses against
the wall and weave our way home, staggering up the
middle of Hearst singing Russian peasant drinking
songs . . . I didn't learn much about operating
systems, but damn, I learned about _life_.
\_ This always summed it up perfectly. Thanks.
\_ yes, whether communism works or not is less
important than the humor value it provides now
\_ on a kibutz where everyone agrees to be there communism
has worked!! The key is that the people involved must
agree to it. Your family could be considered a small
version of communism, one goal for all of you with a
common pot of money . . .
\_ family is a dictatorship, not communism. It IS
sort of socialism, though.
\_"Complete", Minor Threat
\_ URL please.
\_ let's get your login and froge a mail to BH!!
\_ That won't make communism work. Does he now
require his students to adopt his failed
philosophies to get an "A"? When I was in school
we only needed to eat pot stickers with him.
\_ Kinda makes you wish we live in a theoretical world.
There would be no physics problems left in that case.
\_ Oneida Community. Look it up.
\_ When did they release this album? I went looking for it on
amazon and cdnow, and couldn't find it . . .
\_ Wasn't this thread about a rock band? Anyways, someone should
buy "Looking Out for No. 1" by Robert J. Ringer and put it in the
CSUA library
\_ Their first album
\_ Cardigans' new album. It's not really anything like their one-hit,
Lovefool.
\_ I don't know what this "Garbage" is, but you should check out
"Don Ho Gold", by Don Ho. It's got *all* the hits! |
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