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6/9     http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20101.html  See
        the book burners and other control freaks take on Thirdvoice.
        Do all web designers think surfers are morons?  A wd quoted in the
        article:
        "If somebody attached such a note to my site and a visitor is running
        Third Voice, they will see that note," Pastras said. "Because most
        general surfers are ignorant, they will think I'm supporting
        pornography."
        How common is this "surfers are ignorant monkeys" concept among web
        designers?
        \_ in general, not really.  i wouldn't say they are ignorant,
           but when doing mass-appeal sites, one often has to consider
           the audience.  some sites and online businesses have target
           audiences that are not net-savvy at all.  what we take completely
           for granted is a new concept, a concept *at all* for someone
           who is 42 years old in their second month on aol or webtv.
           i had to teach my paents to use a mouse, and menus.  i took
           it very for granted, but if you have never used a computer,
           and don't understand *remotely* what the internet really is,
           then you're not going to understand that thirdvoice is
           a completely different thing than the site you are
           looking at.
           their comment is out of line, it's not ignorance, it's just
           inexperience.  and at the end of the day, i think thirdage
           is fine and dandy and wouldn't think of whining against it.
           it's fun to grafitti sites.  having been in this industry
           for years and years now, though, i certainly know the types
           of people who are going to shit a brick over this. -caliban
           \_ Hmmm... ok I can see that after trying to get my parents on the
              net.  However, people who are inexperienced to such a degree
              are likely to be completely incapable of finding a place like
              thirdvoice and installing the plugin.  Is this an honest concern
              or are the designers just being pissy and controlling?

              \_ both.  designers are pissiy and controlling - it's
                 why i am stuck trying to impliment things in html that
                 the language was never meant for.  pixel perfection?
                 feh.  anyway.  the clients tend to be very controlling.
                 they are spending $2m for this project and they do not
                 want any aspect to be out of their control.  clients
                 are rabid, insane beasts.
                 i can also see it being an honest concern.  i show up
                 at mom & dads to install software for them - i have
                 done this a few times.  anyway, i install all this stuff,
                 including 3rd voice.  mom & dad could then have no idea
                 the extent of the seperateness of these things, so could
                 reasonably assume that it's all one package, and that
                 the people on http://starbucks.com put the notes there.  did
                 i happen to mention that http://starbucks.com made my day hell
                 today?  --caliban
        \_ Surfers aren't *just* igorant monkeys -- they're ignorant monkeys
           looking for schoolgirl porn!
           \_ Well then we should use thirdvoice annotations to help them
               find their schoolgirl porn!
                \_ help them? Help MEEEEEEE!
                  \_ hmm, try <DEAD>schoolgirlporn.com<DEAD>
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