5/17    Bike or take public transport.
        \_ I used to bike to work ... but then the co. was very small and
           now I share the room with several other employees -- how do you
           deal with showers/sweatiness/stench?
                \_ It's not a problem for reasonably short rides.  For
                   longer ones, bring a change of clothes.  -tom
           \_ if you live in an rv or bus in the parking lot you can shower
                 in your vehicle and walk to work and not pay rent. bikes suck.
                \_ get job somewhere with showers at work.
                        \_ where?
                                \_ soda hall
                                \_ sun
                                \_ Any company in Marina Village, Alameda
                                \_ LBL
                                \_ organic, vivid, wired
                        \_ Showers at work is a major career choice maker for
                        \_ Showers at work aren't really necessary if you're
                           riding 5 miles or less (and depending on personal
                           tendencies, possibly much more than that).  Just
                           bring a change of clothes.  -tom
                           me.  In fact, being able to bike to work is the
                           only factor in choosing a job, apartment, and
                           girl friend.  Biking is all.  Kill all drivers.
                           \_ yes, kill 'em all, but don't let god sort
                              them out. let me sort them out. i have some
                              special things planned for the non users of
                              turn signals and those who defile the crosswalks.
                                \_ I was being sarcastic.  What kind of moron
                                   centers his whole life around a bicycle?
                                   There's a special place in Hell for bikers
                                   who don't stop at red lights or stops signs
                                   and treat pedestrians like crap.
                                   \_ I used to buzz pedestrians crossing on
                                      a red.  Was I evil?
                                      \_ Peds *always* have the right of way.
                                         Period.  *Always*.  Yes.  You fucked
                                         up.  You did wrong.  *Always* no
                                         matter how stupid they are.
                                \_ Don't forget those who think turning on
                                   their hazard lights exempts them from
                                   obeying all traffic laws, common courtesy,
                                   and common sense.
                                   \_ I drive to work every day with my hazards
                                      on doing 90+ mph.  The cops and everyone
                                      else leaves me alone, I don't pay bridge
                                      tolls and it's a damned fine way to avoid
                                      accidents since everyone avoids a car
                                      they think might be about to explode.
                \_ Buy your co-workers nose-clips for Xmas presents.
           \_ lick yourself off like a cat