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1999/2/26-3/30 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:15489 Activity:moderate
2/26    AMD outsells Intel in Janurary. Kewl.
        http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,32972,00.html
        \_ Of course, if Intel sold its products below cost (like AMD
           is), that might not be the case.
           \_ its all about market share man. Do you think MSIE would be
               where it is now if microsoft wasn't giving it away Free?
               Hell in some cases they're paying people to use it!
               \_ Which is strange--MS is being hammered, and AMD is
                  being praised, even though they lost $100M last year
                  and are losing money with every chip they sell.  If
                  Intel did the same thing, they'd be attacked just as
                  MS is.  And now, AMD comes up with the K6-III, which
                  will lose them even *more* money per chip (and they
                  don't really want to sell many of them).  Whatever.
                  \_ They only lose money because they have terrible
                     manufacturing processes. Intel doesn't make any
                     money on the low end chips either. MS gets hammered
                     because they have a monopoly. AMD is forcing intel
                     which basically had a monopoly ot lower its prices.
                     \_ Actually, you have to design for manufacture as
                        well as manufacture well.  Yes, Intel does make
                        money on the low end chips (trust me).  It's
                        just not as much as on the high end chips
                        (obviously).  AMD has stated that they have to
                        achieve an average selling price (ASP) of about
                        $100 to be profitable.  Currently they're
                        selling at *much* less than that.  It's the only
                        reason they're selling anything at all.
                        \_ How long can they stay afloat by losing money
                           this way?  Intel after all has much more cash.
                           \_ AMD has other not-as-high-profile
                              products that we never hear about
                              because the news media doesn't think
                              that those products are sexy enough.
                              Perhaps those are the products that
                              are keeping AMD afloat.  Besides,
                              Amazon isn't making much money and
                              their stock is (or was? I don't
                              remember) worth rather a lot.  Success
                              is defined by something like the
                              Calculus of FITR, and I'm glad nobody
                              relies on me to make a critical
                              business decision that will increase
                              business success.  Business is all a
                              load of goat droppings anyway, and we
                              should all go live on farming cooperatives.
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AMD benefited from a strong demand for PCs selling for less than $1,000, which made up more than 65 percent of the market in January, the first time this price segment has exceeded 60 percent of overall unit sales. For years, 28 Intel has dominated the worldwide market for PC chips. But as this report shows, AMD has made signficant gains on its archrival by seizing the market for home computers priced less than $1,000 or, in some cases, even $500 or $400.