2/23   Thanks ERic for the MRTG tip. It works great.
        New Question (Sometimes i think i take advantage of the motd;
        other times i'm sure of it.):
        Does anyone know of any LPT protocols so that my WIN 9X machines
        can print to Mac printers like my NT machines do ?      -crebbs
        \_ Have them print to an NT server setup as a print server for the
           Appletalk printers.  Easiest to do if you already have an NT
           server that prints to them.  I've never bothered trying to find
           an Appletalk driver for win9x (which I'm assuming is what you
           mean by "Mac printers").  If the printers are tcp/ip, you just
           need the right printer driver like any other printer.
           \_ sorry, i should have been more clear about what i was doing:
                I have been having problems with printing (most notably
                with certain applications such as QUARK) and want to take
                my *Apple* (woops) printers off the NT server and have
                them on a MAC server which will be "cleaner" (for lack of
                a better term). Now my NT machines can still print to
                those printers via tcp/ip using the LPR protocol which
                NT has, but my Windows 9X machines can't 'cause they don't
                so i was hoping for some third part LPR protocol so i
                don't have to buy pc-maclan or copstalk just to print.
                \_ oooooooh.... well you can _still_ print via your NT
                   server as a sort of printer server/proxy for the 95
                   boxes.  I've done this before.  All the lpr/9x things
                   I've seen all suck and don't come anywhere near the
                   concept of "clean".
                    \_ How? i can't see the printers from my win9x
                      machines and couldn't find anything on the winnt FAQ
                        \_ Setup the printer using LPR on the NT machine,
                           then share it from the NT machine.
                \_ well, you could try moving a printer to a UNIX box,
                   and running CAP, and see if you stillhave problems
                   printing from mac. Then you could print from
                   both mac and nt fine.
                    \_ Yes well, i very often say "we should do this on a
                        Unix Box" but the unix boxes aren't "mine."  I
                        suppose i could set up a linux machine but, grr,
                        that's like work.  (besides finding a spare
                        machine)
                        \_ installing linux on a machine that used to run
                           Windows is more like a vacation than work.  -tom