2/15    I just bought a new car. The dealer install for fog light costs about
        $300. Here are my questions. EXACTLY how effective are fog lights,
        are they worth $300, and is the "do-it-yourself" kit ($150) easy to
        install? THANKS.
        \_ I smell a riceboy... but anyways, fog lights are effective as
           long as they are yellow and mounted low. Installation
           difficulty varies according to how much is pre-wired in your
           car. Usually, it's Switch-Relay-Light, and some grounds.
           \_ The PC term to use here is rice rocket.
                 \_ So as long as there's a worse racial epithet any lesser
                    one is ok to use?  I see....
           \_ Racist.
              \_ Calling other people "riceboy" might be racist. I'm not too
                 offended myself because there are much worst racial slangs
           long as they are yellow and mounted low. Installation
           difficulty varies according to how much is pre-wired in your
           car. Usually, it's Switch-Relay-Light, and some grounds.
                 than that one. But you've go to admit that those lowered
                 super modified 60hp Honda Civics with an unplugged muffler,
                 anti-white people Lambda frat decals, annoying fog lights, and
                 punk ass looser drivers make us normal Asians look bad.
                 \_ amen to that!  Idiot asian punks who customize honda
                    civics/accords really make normal asian guys look BAD.
                    Why do you behave like such dorks?  This is not HK or
                    Taiwan pal, stop acting like idiots.
                    \_ It's funny to see people from SanFranSissyBayArea
                       call other people punks.  Whether you are asian,
                       white or whatever, and whether you drive a Jeep
                       Cherokee, Honda Civic, Volkswagon, or BMW, to people
                       from other parts of the country, you will always be
                       a sissy punk ass.
                    \_ You may think you are normal, others think you are a
                    nerd a geek, a cheap ass...you donot like them, they do
                    not like you.  You call them names, they call you names.
                    So you think you are better, they think they are better.
                    You think they are idiots, they think you are a dumbass.
                    Everyone's got an opinion, everyone's got his/her own
                    preferrence.  Anyway, you can buy after market fog lights
                    and have them installed elsewhere, most of the time, you can
                    have it cheaper than the dealer...Dealers always try to rip
                    u off.
                    \_ You're absolutely right.  Everyone's titled to have
                       an opinion. (unPC stuff removed) But the fact
                       that even the Heurestic Squelch took out an entire
                       page for a rice racer parity shows you how totally
                       stupid the concept is.
                 \_ So as long as there's a worse racial epithet any lesser
                    one is ok to use?  I see....
                    \_ no, I'm just saying that "riceboy" is a fairly lame
                       insult. It was as if a four year old said "you're
                       stupid".  You just don't give a damn.
                       \_ Die pre-schooler!!!
                \_ I'm chinese, and I use the term 'riceboy' quite liberally.
                   I frankly don't understand this counterculture.
                 \_ Males in Hong Kong and Taiwan don't even do stuff like
                  this. AFAIK this is a North American Asian thing only.
                   \_these mods are quite the rage here in japan, tho -vann
        \_ fog lights are VERY effective for annoying the shit out of other
           drivers. that and those blue tinted lights, white brake lights,
           and those other modifications that make your engine louder.
        \_ If the fog gets so thick you need special lights, maybe you
           shouldn't be out on the road?  Don't forget driving isn't just
           about not hitting the other guy, it's about not getting hit and
           the guy who slams into your trunk will crush in your rear no matter
           what kind of lights you have on the front.