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people of questionable intellect, please view /tmp/policy.txt.
--PeterM
\_ it seems as though this policy is regarding desktop machines
within the department and has nothing to do with anyone's home
machines. is this not the case?
\_ There was an incident like this at UCLA where a dorm student had
his ethernet port disabled because he was running a multiuser
OS
\_ that's pretty lame if you can't run daemons without asking for
permissions first.
\_ impossible to enforce. You stupid fools.
\_ not impossible. Not against 95% of the people that want to
run them. They just do port scanning on specific ports.
\_ They can't force you to pay for their services or wipe your
disk with a "by running linux you have implicitly agreed to
this policy" statement. That's just some power tripping
moron making shit up. As for the rest, it's just stupid.
They don't take care of their own site security and couldn't
tell if someone else's machine was insecure so what's the
point? It's just silly. They are silly stupid people and I
fart in their general direction.
\_ Hello? Did you read the part that said this is the
"CS dept. network" policy? They're not "charging you"
- this covers machines owned by the CS dept. and on
their network - they have the right to define how
their property (computers & network) is used.
\_ Read it again. They don't have the right to create
a policy that you're pre-agreed to simply by having
a linux box on the network without making sure
you're read and signed the agreement first. Wake
up. This is so incredibly open to abuse, it isn't
even laughable. Actually, its down right scary.
\_ If you've got a box on the CS dept. network
it's either owned by the CS dept. or a CS
student group who agreed to follow CS
policies.
\_ Even the ones which can cost you money
without your having been made
specifically aware of such costs. The
policy is ridiculous and scary.
\_ What's ridiculous is the idea that
you can plug whatever you want into
campus network connections. -tom
campus network connections. The CS
department owns the connection, and is
having major problems with unsupported
Unix boxes, primarily Linux. This is
happening all over campus. While I don't
agree with all the points of the policy,
I fully support the department's right to
control its own network. -tom
\_ I agree that they have a right to kick
you off, but not to say that merely
running a particular OS implies your
consent to their entire policy including
charging you a bogus security fine
without making any effort to educate
anyone about the existence of this
policy. In fact, I doubt it's either
legal or possible to assign such a bogus
charge to anyone's CARS bill.
charge to anyone's CARS bill. An empty
threat is stupid. This is a research
and educational institution. They
should educate, not slap random
punishments around they can't enforce.
\_ It doesn't mention CARS bills,
because the CS dept. doesn't allow
students to plug in their computers
in Soda Hall. This is about
how the dept. 'charges' the various
research projects in soda hall.
\_ Hahahahhahha, I'd like to see
those monkey faced little shits
try to charge my Prof. for this!
\_ Yes I did. It didn't say I could plug in my own
machine and run all those services without getting
squished. They have the right to turn off a
network connection but not to charge me for their
worthless security check/approval. Can you say,
"stupid invasive big brotherish morons invent yet
another ridiculous set of paranoid self defeating
idiotic 'policies' again"? Knew you could.
\_ YOU CAN'T PLUG IN ANY MACHINE OF YOURS TO
THE CS DEPT. NETWORK. This has nothing
to do with personal machines at home. It
ONLY COVERS MACHINES IN SODA HALL.
\_ I didn't say "at home". I _can_ and
_have_ plugged a machine in at soda hall.
Thank you for playing. Try again? (Y/n)
\_ If you plugged your laptop in to
a connection in soda hall, you are
most likely doing so without
permission and can get in much more
trouble than just breaking the
linux policy.
\_ Anyone with more info? In what situations does that policy apply?
\_ CalLUG is trying to find out more about this. It looks like
it is targeted at researchers in Soda Hall. -- schoen
\_ Well, "FreeBSD" doesn't appear anywhere in that policy; sounds
like they're just trying to get you to make a sensible OS choice.
\_ You will be absorbed. It doesn't say I can't run all those
exact same services on my far less secure win 95/nt box either. |
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