12/1    Consider enrolling in Philos 146, Philosophy of Mathematics.
        \_ Philos >> NT
        \_ PhilOS >> NT
        The history of how people thought about and practiced Math.
        Really cool and in danger of being cancelled. -tcmoore
        \_ Don't do that.  Philosophy will work you into the ground and
           give you a shitty grade for your efforts.  Unless you've taken
           the core lower div. courses, enjoyed them _and_ did well, dont
           blow your gpa on upper div. philosophy.  Buy the book if you care.
           \_ I found upper div philosophy courses to be relatively easy as
              long as you do the reading. Whatever happened to the, "All
              liberal arts courses are 10x easier than EECS courses" mentality?
                \_ in terms of workload yes.  But grading is rather vague.
                \_ I don't have that mentality and never did.  Philosophy was
                   by far the hardest course I ever took.  Yes, I did all the
                   reading numerous times, went to class, etc, etc.
                \_ In my (very limited) experience, the grading is really
                   inconsistant in liberal arts classes...
                      \_ But you're obviously not a liberal arts major
                   \_ I agree, but Phil o' Math, based on my casual readings,
                      is pretty clear-cut. Everything falls into 2-4 camps.
                      Not all mushy like other liberal arts, philos classes.
                      Just take it P/NP and you'll do fine. -tcmoore
                      \_ Rather than burn yourself out struggling for that
                         "P", go sign up for something truly soft and don't
                         worry about it.  It's foolish to take courses because
                         you think they're interesting.  If you're just mildly
                         interested then buy the book and read it on your own;
                         you don't need the grading hassles.
                         \_ With an attitude like that, why didn't you just go
                            to CalPoly, or better yet, ITT and leave your Cal
                            spot to someone who wanted a University education?
                                \_ Uhm, yeah, in case you haven't noticed, Cal
                                does _not_ provide a classical liberal arts
                                education.  Don't be fooled.