11/23   I missed the end of the mp3 discussion and now I'm in need.  Could
        someone send me pointers to a reasonable mp3 player and "get music
        off the cd and onto disc" program for FreeBSD.  For the record, this
        is for a laptop w/o cd so I can listen to cd I already have.
        - seidl
        \_ how the hell did you install FreeBSD on a computer without
           CDROM?
           \_ He has clue.  Soda was installed without a CDROM.  It
              still does not have one.
              \_ I think I've done at least a half dozen FreeBSD installs,
                 none of them with cdrom. The nastiest was one where I didn't
                 have net or floppy either ... -ERic
                 \_ oh yeah, well on time I installed FreeBSD on a toaster,
                    and it wasn't eaven plugged in!
                    \_ Depends... was it a one slice or two slice toaster?
        \_ you can check out the motd RCS.  For rippers and encoders try
           http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user/xiphmont/cdparanoia/index.html
           http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-82625
           for a mp3 player there's x11amp which looks a lot like winamp.
                 \_ O.k., I've got players and encoders now.  But rippers
                    elude me.  I think I've gotten at least 2 which fail
                    to compile.
           it used to be only for linux but now available of freebsd
           http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/index2.html
           -jeff
           \_ the question is which will work/compile under FreeBSD?
              \_ I know for sure that x11amp binaries for FreeBSD are
                 available.  I use linux myself so I wouldn't know about
                 the ripper and encoder.  My guess would be ripper=no,
        \_ I missed yermom when she was in town and now I am in need. Could
           someone send me pointers to yer sister's house?
           \_ http://blowme.com
                 encoder=yes.
        \_ I use a version of cdd modified to work with ATAPI CD-ROM drives
           under FreeBSD-CURRENT (should work on -STABLE now too).  It
           might be in the ports collection now, but if it isn't let me
           know and I'll email it to you.  You'll also need sox to convert
           it to wav format and 8hz-mp3 to encode from wav to mp3.  mpg123
           is the best console-mode MP3 player. There are numerous ones for
           X11, too, but I haven't found a good one yet.  -brian