9/16 There should be a law against road repairs during rush hours.
My commute just about doubled because they closed off one lane on
a local street, which slowed ttraffic to a crawl on the highway.
\_ There should be a law against drivers of single-occupant vehicles
complaining about the traffic. -tom
\_ There should be a law about bike fanatics babbling about things
they don't understand such as the fact that not everyone can
live within easy bike distance to their work or get involved in
a carpool.
\_ "Can't?" Where in the Bay Area is there employment where
there is not housing within a few miles?
\_ Uh huh, I suppose it's that easy to find affordable
AND available housing. Housing isn't an issue in the
Bay Area, right?
\_ it's an issue, but it's not impossible. I've
lived within biking distance of my place of work
for over 10 years now, even though I've lived
in at least 6 different places and had two
different work locations. -tom
\_ Have you lived in the south bay within this past
3 years? Finding a place to live is harder than
finding a job. To find one that is within
a few miles, good luck.
\_ I'll admit, I live at home, 1/2 hr commute to
work. I could easily live across the street
from where I work for $1600/mo. Worth it? No.
\_ Add $500/mo to what you are currently paying
for rent and see if you can afford it. A car
easily costs that much.
\_ Maintenance/car insurance/gas/commuting
does not add up to $500/mo. maybe $300.
for my current rent + $300 i couldn't get
shit near my place of work.
\_ A car is an absolute necessity. Without
a car is like no life. Would you expect
\_ The life rules should
be amended to support
those with no car
voluntarily. - ped
to go on a date on your bicycle?
\_ According to the AAM, owning an average
car costs 45 cents per mile, which for
an average amount of driving comes out
to about $500/month. That, of course,
doesn't include any of the external costs
of driving, such as environmental damage.
It also doesn't include the cost of your
time. And yes, I go on dates on my
bicycle. -tom
\_ "Hey honey, let's take a scenic tour
by BART."
\_ I don't know about you, but the
sort of woman I tend to date is
more interested in a person's level
of integrity and personal
responsibility than in what kind of
car he drives. -tom
\_ I dunno about you, but the women
I date would be annoyed if all
posts. -tomy
\_ You are one those fucking lucky rich people.
\_ I see zero correlation to that statement.
\_ tom works for the University, which means
he makes less than the average soda geek
our dates were confined to
within 20 miles. Oh, and no
dates if it's raining...
\_ pussy. you dont deserve to
\_ They've been saying _that_ since before you were
born.
live in a moderate climate.
Go move to arizona.
\_ How about I don't _want_ to live in the slums where my employment is? How
about I like to do more than go to work. How about I need to shop for more
than a 6 pack of coke once a week? How about a trip up the coast? A drive
do provide exercise.
to visit relatives in San Diego? How about a late night trip anywhere you
might get dragged off your bike (like where my work is)? How about we all
live in tom's idyllic ideal little world where everyone can use a bike and
BART/bus to get everywhere and do everything?
--still waiting for the fantasy; driving in the realworld 'til then
\_ You are one those fucking lucky rich people.
\_ Luck doesn't (typically) generate wealth. Brains, hard
work, connections, and a winning personality generate far
greater wealth for most than dumb luck.
\_ Why waste all day driving to San Diego when you can fly for cheaper
than the cost of gas?
\_ And how are you going to get around SD when you get there?
What if you *enjoy* road trips? --emarkp
\_ How about you take responsibility for your actions? One way
to start would be to sign your name to your inflammatory MOTD
posts. -tom
\_ Because I fear you'll ride the 450 miles to my house on
your bicycle and rape me with your water bottle. How about
you answer some of those very real questions? Oops, sorry,
you lose. You don't have a good answer so you just rag on
my for not signing my name. To be honest, the only thing I
really fear is being associated with you in any way, including
a "chat" on the motd about your fanatic desire to force
everyone to live your 60's reject hippy lifestyle.
\_ over 70% of trips in the Bay Area are in single-occupant
vehicles--that's ridiculous. Of course when the oil
runs out, I'm sure people will find that they "can" live
in a more responsible manner. -tom
\_ They've been saying _that_ since before you were born.
\_ uh, do you believe the oil *won't* run out? -tom
\_ do you know when tom was born for that matter?
\_ You mean like all them single-occupant bicycles?
\_ that don't cause nearly as much wear and tear on the
pavement, dont suck up nearly as much petroleum products,
dont kill hundreds if not thousands of people yearly,
do provide cheap and efficient local area transport, and
do provide exercise. --jon
\_ we also don't complain about the traffic, because the
worse it is, the more of an advantage we have. -tom
\_ Yeah, ya'll just create more traffic like the Bay
Bridge / cyclists incident last week
\_ That wouldn't have affected traffic at all if not
for the CHP. -tom
TOM: you are an idiot. I drive the Bay BR about
twice a week, and commuted on it for all of
last semester! The average speed is 70+mph!!!
Unless these bikers ( with their 10 foot flag)
were setting world speed records, you're full
of crap!
\_ sign your name, wimp. -tom
\_ Actually its more like 60mph but there's
still no need for an antagonistic "protest".
\_ Did you graduate from Cal? I refuse to believe
an alum from one of the top universities in the
nation would present an argument like that.
\_ Don't think tom has graduated.
\_ They were moving nearly at the speed of
traffic. There were 17 of them, in the
space that one car would have taken. The
CHP are the ones who blocked two lanes. -tom
\_ There's this little issue of it being
ILLEGAL to bike on the bridge.
\_ It was a PROTEST, twink. -tom
\_ So all protests are illegal by def'n?
\_ Just ignore the fanatic prick. He has nothing of
interest to say regarding transportation issues.
Just the SOS.
\_ as opposed to you. -tom
\_ Glad you agree. First sane thing you've
said.
\_ go tom! if you can't see the bars,
then you're not in prison, right? -nick
\_ did they lets jmeggs out of jail yet?
\_ jmeggs is a twink
\_ one thing this occasional bike rider complains about
a lot is the condition of roads in the bay area, esp
in berkeley since I live here. I wonder what Jason
Meggs and his like would accomplish if they were to
lobby for better roads rather than protesting on the
local bridges (not that an occasional protest is a
bad thing). Voters of the World unite, oust those
elected representatives who don't do right by you --jon |
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