8/11    Has anyone had any experience with any of the upper div math
        classes (in particular 113 and 125A)?  What would one recommend to
        fullfill the upper div math requirement?
        \_ Math 110 (Linear Algebra) is pretty easy. Math 113 is only a little
           more difficult, but a lot less useful for a CS type. --dim
           \_ Agreed... I was a CS-Math double-major and I use 110 and 113 a
              lot more than any of the other upper div math courses.  Under no
              circumstances should you take 104.  128A is useful if you
              expect to do a lot of numeric programming.  -mogul
              \_ 128A has to be the worst math class ever. sooo boring.
               \_I thought 128a was ok last semester with the Icelandic
                 Prof. Adalsteisson, gave us libs and stuff for C/C++.
                 Demmel is teaching it in the fall
                 and I recommend taking it with him.  Avoid Rieffel,
                 boring, and stupid fortran.
        \_ I'm not a math person, but my math friends always said 113 was a
           piece of cake and 110 was a really hard weeder course.  YMMV.
        \_ 110 is a more theoretical bend on what was taught to you in
           54/50A/whatever.  If you didn't do well in lower division,
           you'll choke in 110.  Of course, for the psychotics who want
           to know where integrals come from, there's always 104.  It's
           a worthwhile course in that it gives you a broader picture of
           How Things Work, though I doubt you'll use much of the stuff
           in CS.  Take it anyway. :-)  -- tmonroe
           \_ 104 has been relatively easy this summer. Easier than
              Math 55 because you don't have to worry about "competition".
        \_Well gosh, I actually majored in math, and found them all to be
          pretty useful classes.  104 is possibly the hardest class at Cal.
          I definitely would not take it just to fulfill a one course req.
          I thought 110 was very easy, and 113 was not that hard if you were
          willing to stretch your mind in different directions.  128A was
          a lot of work, and the math content was kind of low.  Probably good
          for the CS tie-in.  Are those your only choices, or could you take
          like mathematical logic, or set theory, either of which would be
          much more applicable to CS?  Or even 170, which they didn't offer when
          I was there.  Grrr.  --cody
        \_ Take 104 if you really want to learn math.  Otherwise,
           110 or 113, if you just want to fulfill a requirement.
        \_ Math 121a and Math 121b were two of the best classes I took
           at Cal.  I had professor Podles, but some of my friends who
           took these classes with professor Neu also enjoyed them very much.
           I also took Math 104 which I think is pretty useless.  Even though
           Math 104 is interesting and you learn some fancy words like
           "compact", the only benefit I recieved was learning how to
           write a proof (e.g. I leaned what an upside down A and a backword
           E mean).  Feel free to email me if you would like to read
           more of my rant on why Math 121a and Math 121b are FAR superior
           to math 104, 110, 113, 185 and most others with the possible
           exception of Math 128a/b or the applied math course (I don't
           remember the course number for the applied math course).
           By the way I got an EE/CS degree with a minor in physics,
           but I am working as a software engineer now. -emin
                \_ Which 12 step program did you attend?
        \_ You used to be able to satisfy the L&S upper div math requirement
           with stats 134, which was a basic intro to probability
           and statistical methods. not a bad thing if you're not into
           most mathematicians' math and you feel a little too focused
           towards discrete math and logics in CS --karlcz