7/7  what is all that crap in the official motd about routing mail?
     \_ If you currently use soda as an smtp server, it'll stop working
        unless you're in berkeley or you are only sending mail to soda.
        \_ out of curiousity, what were the reasons that this change was
           made? prevent others from leeching resources?
           \_ To stop spam relaying.
              \_ And thus keep soda off of the RBL.
                \_ what is RBL?
                        \_ The black list discussed in the bottom half of the
                           motd  [formatting corrected. -Format Master]
                   \_ I have not now, nor have I ever, been a member of
                      Organization X.
                \_ To stop the several hundred complaints sent to
                        postmaster@berkeley.edu & abuse@berkeley.edu in the
                        last few days since some spammer discovered we relayed.
                   \_ Question: since this is supposed to be run by various
                      super clued security minded people, how come we were
                      relaying in the first place?
                        \_ convience to soda users?
                      \_ because some of our 'super-clued' but perhaps less
                         'security minded' people decided the convenience of
                         supporting users with their POP mailers coming from
                         random ISP's would be better and bring less complaint
                         hassles to root@soda.  -ERic
        \_How is this supposed to prevent "security problems",
          it sounds stupid.
                \_ It doesn't.  It prevents spammers from using soda to
                   spam the world, and prevents root from getting flooded
                   with mail complaints every time spammers do.  (Which
                   has happened lately - this isn't theoretical.)
          \_ It only sounds stupid, because you don't have a clue.
                \_ I went to the clue farm yesterday and bought a new born
                   clue.  I'm starting my own herd.
                        \_ You couldn't catch a clue if you covered yourself
                           in clue musk and stood in a field of horny clues
                           in the middle of clue mating season.
                           \_ That's why I'm starting my own clue herd with
                              some clue I bought at the clue farm.  No
                              catching required.
                                \_ Hey, that sounds like a clue... where can
                                   I get one?  How much do they cost?  URL?