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| 1998/7/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14299 Activity:insanely high |
7/8 What happens if you do a set uid=0. Does that automatically
give your root access. (set gid=0, set user=root)
\_ You know, if you try logging in as "System Administrator"
without a password on some of those NT machines they'll let
you right in. Those are our security-minded sysadmins at
eecs instructional.
\_ NT is insecure by definition. Besides, who cares if
you can login as admin on an NT client? All you can
do is hoze the local machine, which is going to be
wiped & reinstalled anyway since NT sucks so badly.
\_ If you have access to the console, any OS is
insecure by definition
\_ If the machine is up and running, it's
insecure by definition.
\_ Strongly agree!!! The most
secured system is the one powered
off!!!
\_ Someone here gets the crash screen a few times a week. I
guess I am among the very few lucky ones since I've only
gotten the crash screen a few times in the past months.
\_ What's wrong with you people. I have NT running
\_ We're mad as hell that Microsoft is spending
millions of dollars in seldom-countered
\_ At least, I can run more applications than
Linux developer can support. Imagine trying
develop Oracle applications with Linux...
Oh..I forgot Oracle doesn't support Linux.
\_ If it's not supported by the major
software vendors or my company,
it's useless!!!
advertising that creates the impression that
there is something wrong with anybody who doesn't
Don't want to waste that on a Linux OS
where I can't install anything but
shareware and freeware.
use Microsoft software. (Even if that's not the
particular meme you were repeating.) The looks
you get when you say you don't use Windows are
like the looks when you say you're a vegetarian,
or an atheist. -- vegetarian atheist Linux user
use Microsoft software.
since last year, I have not experienced any
system crash yet. I have IIS 3, Oracle 8 server,
networking, and a bunch of DB development tools.
\_ your machine must be going at 2 miles per
hour. FOR THE LAST TIME...GET LINUX.
\_ Not if you got a PII with 300mhz system
and 128MB RAM, Dell Workstation 400.
Don't want to waste on a Linux OS that is
supported by shareware and freeware.
\_ machines scale linearly O(n) with
Linux and O(log(n)) with Winblows.
Funny, there's about ten times
more software with Windows but you
can still do so much more with
Linux.
\_ The point is, the software I need
to get my work done is not supported
by Linux. If you work for the
corporate company, you don't have
luxury of picking the sofware, in
my case database and web tools,
you want to use.
\_ I work with both unix and
winblows based machines at
work which involves web and
database integration. I find
unix tools much more flexible
and easier to work with than
the winblows ones. See Perl
DBI modules.
\_ My company doesn't like
\_ Apache has had in-proc
Perl support for a good
perl. We like products
been?
such as the Oracle 2000
products. It's faster
to develop and has nicer
UI. Besides, cgi/perl is
slow. It needs to compile
and start a process every
web access. If you need
support like 500+ users,
it's going be nightmare.
\_ Apache has had single
binary, in-process Perl
support for a good
long time. Where've you
been? Microsoft PR firm?
\_ So does IIS. That's
no point. There are
guidelines within
IS group of what
software is permitted
and what software
is not. For ex.,
we're not allowed
write java applets.
\_ Don't pretend,
then, please,
that the peculiar
prejudices of
your IS group
represent a good
technical
argument. "My
IS group hates
free software"
!= "besides,
cgi/perl is
slow". Your
companies can
detest free OSes
all they like,
but it doesn't
make them any
less scalable.
\_ It's a
Corporate
life. They
don't call
"corporate
slave" for
nothing.
\_ I'll take
my freedom,
thanks.
\_ Hear,
hear.
Working
for
someone
else's
IT
department
really
blows
goats.
Excuse
me
while
I
exacerbate
the
problems
that
this
particular
motd
was
developing
already.
-- tmonroe
\_ It's the
leaning
tower of
motd!
\_ AT some
point the motd
just has to wrap
back to the left
side. -ERic
\_ Yeah, God damn gcc, Perl, Apache, X11,
SSH, Emacs, GIMP, Netscape, and the rest
of them to HELL! They weren't written by
Microsoft Certified Developers! And none
of those wimpy languages like Scheme and
Java, because they aren't Visual Basic!
And BIND and sendmail supporting the
fundamental architecture of the
Internet... that's just a myth made up by
Microsoft haters! Everyone knows that
TCP/IP was really developed on Windows NT
by Microsoft Certified Developers, who
wouldn't touch that shareware and
freeware with a 1,024-foot pole!
\_ Tell that to your CIO.
\_ We already had this flamewar,
once upon a time: but I'll repeat
myself. It is not difficult to
get jobs using Linux which do
not require you to support
Windows.
I do not have a CIO, but I do
have a boss and coworkers who
are enthusiastic about software
other than that which you get
from Redmond. Thank you.
\_ Maybe I should quit my
$80+K job and my 5 yrs of
M$/Oracle experience and
go for Linux/Perl supported
company.
\_ Yes, you should. There
are already $80K Linux
jobs here and there, a
nice feat considering
the presently low market
share of Linux.
\_ With little or no
Linux experience???
I don't know. You'll
lucky to get $60-70K
job. I am sure if
you are expecting
10-20% increase for
job change. Good
luck if you looking
Linux job at $90-100K.
\_ yes.
\_ DUDE!!!! YOU'VE JUST FOUND A MASSIVE SECURITY HOLE!!!!!
DON'T TELL ANYONE, OR SUN WILL SEND A TEAM OF BLACKSUITED KILLER
NINJAS UNDER COVER OF NIGHT TO SNUFF YOU OUT!!!!
\_ Hmmm...I just tried this "% set uid=0; rm -f /etc/passwd" but
permission denied.
\_ Yer just not eleete enuf. try with a " ~ " before the
/etc/passwd.
\_ try cp /bin/csh ~; chown root:root ~/csh; chmod a+s ~/csh |
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