6/15    My little brother got into Cal and Stanford, can you guys tell us
        pros and cons of your personal experience? Thanks.
        \_ Who will be paying for the schooling and what sorts of majors
           is he considering? --dim
        \_ If you can afford it and are white (or Asian), I would recommend
           Stanford because it's more prestigious, less competitive... that
                \_ Berkeley's 3.5 GPA equivalent to Stanford's 4.0.
                   Most Berkeley grads who got 3.5+ got 4.0 in Stanford's
           means you'll probably have a higher GPA and will be more attractive
           to grad schools and employers.
                \_ If he's ever planning to work in Europe, Berkeley.
                   Nobody here's ever heard of Stanford.  Seriously.  -John
                \_ Berkeley's 3.5 GPA = Stanford's 4.0.
                   Most Berkeley undergrads who got 3.5+ got 4.0 in Stanford's
                   grad program.  You draw the conclusion.
                   \_ URL to prove this fact?????
                      \_ I once spoke to a professor, and he does factor in
                         inflated Stanfurd grades while going through grad
                         applications.
                   \_ umm, grad school GPAs are higher everywhere
        \_ weather is much nicer in berkeley
        \_ If you want a challenging environment to prepare yourself for the
           real world, go to Berkeley.
           \_ If you want to learn how truly cruel and inhumane
              bureacracy can be, go to Berkeley and join the rest of
              the undergrad herd.
              Moooooo!
                \_ I dunno about you, but I feel far more prepared to face
                   "real world" assholes than some candy-assed spoiled
                   Stanford grad.  -John
           \_ i agree.  if you want to be challenged come to berkeley.  Be
              prepared to compete in a cut-throat environment and be
              treated like shit.  Because the real world is EXACTLY like that.
              Go to stanford if you're WEAK and need the extra attention from
              TAs/profs/etc.
           \_  Give me a break.  I don't know about Stanford because I spent
           both my under and grad years at Berkeley, and I know Berkeley is
           full of the product of fine American high schools and competition
           is almost nonexistent.
        \_ Easy choice. Go wherever the chics are. Go Bruins!!! Cal SUX!!!
           \_ Or go where the winning sports teams are. Enjoy the NCAA
              basketball tournament next year and root for the Card.
        \_ Aren't you supposed to decide which college to go to by May 1?