4/16    What do you have to do to have a web page with a secure
        connection?  I assume there must be a way for a CGI script to
        interact with the server to send the info.  How would it work on
        Soda?
        \_ SSL uses RSA, which means it costs money.
        \_ SSL uses RSA, which means it costs money, which means no SSL on Soda
        \_ ask root to install stronghold or apache-ssl
                                        \_ apache-ssl is illegal in the us
                \_ donate $175 for a server certificate or con sameer into
                        donating one or it's worthless
        \_ sameer/C2 has offered stronghold to us in the past. We'd still need
            to fork over $$ for a certificate, but that wouldn't be too bad.
            Supposedly they're in the ~100/year range from thawte.
                \_ stronghold is crap.  c2 support is a joke.
                  \_ Think Netscape or M$oft will give us a similar product
                     that is 'supported' on freebsd?  Compared to the
                     alternatives, C2 RULES!
                     \_ hell, if it even is produced, let alone supported
            \_ And why hasnt the CSUA taken sameer up on this offer?
              \_ need for a certificate, and/or excessive slack.
              \_ Lack of real need.
                 \_ Whaddya mean, lack of real need?  If soda supported SSL,
                    then safari could do a pay-for-porn Web site, taking
                    credit card numbers right there on the spot.  The CSUA
                    could take 5-10% off the top . . . pay for the cert.,
                    plus a year-round fundraiser for the hardware fund.
                    \_ Yup.  Like I said, "Lack of real need".  Besides,
                       aren't you a member of the FPF?
        \_ C2 rewls over all of you
                  \_ Hey, ast least they have Freebsd support.  What are our
                     other secure-server options, and are they any better?
        \_ I dont know too much about secure servers, what do they do for you
           that is so great?
                \_ Let you safely sell porn to net.people without fear of
                   their CC#s getting snooped.