Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 13908
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4/6     Where can I find software engineer salary surveys on-line?  I've only
        found URL's that say things like "send your info this way and we'll
        contact you".  I am preparing to negotiate with my manager.  Thanks.
                \_ http://www.realrates.com Contracts are also there.
        \_ <DEAD>techweb.cmp.com/eet/salarysurvey/salary/salary.html<DEAD>
           (EE Times 1997 salary survey)
        \_ http://www.realrates.com Contracts are also there.
           \_ Thanks, but that site only lists salaries by a few individuals
              considering the broad range of job categories the site covers.
              Is there any site that lists e.g. "The average salary for
              engineers working on OS software with 4-6 years of experience in
              California (or even Bay Area) is $xxxxx"?  Thanks again.
        \_ how about a sampling of csua'er salaries right here on the motd?
                \_ I'll start: $35k, its@ucb.
                        \_ poor saar - dump is&t and get a real job
        \_ all right, I am under paid!
                \_ $17billion, bgates@m$.com
                \_ 89k industry
                \_ 60k industry
                \_ 75k midwest industry
                \_ $20/hour!!!!  Excited Taos Newbie!!!
                   \_  That's bullshit.  No way Taos would pay only $20/hr
                       to someone with real world SysAdmin or webdev
                       experience and/or knowledge.  And..if you've got
                       4+ years of meaningful experience, you're gonna
                       get a whole lot more than that.--chris
                                \_ Note the word "newbie".  Remember the
                                   shitload of CSUA'ers Taos hired @ $18/hr
                                   for Sun move team a couple years ago.
                                   Acheive enlightenment.  Taos likes to hire
                                   people who think $20/hour is a good salary,
                                   even if they're worth more.
                                        \_ taos now pays only $15/hr for
                                           sun move team, whereas the other
                                           contracting companies pay at
                                           least $20/hr for the same job.
                                   \_ He said "Taos newbie".  That does
                                      not necessarily mean a newbie in the
                                      industry.
                                        \_ Yes it does.  No one with experience
                                                goes with Taos - many other
                                                companies will pay them what
                                                their worth.
                                          \_ Such as?  -curious and ignorant
                       \_ $100K Taos
                       \_ $72K Taos
                   \_ That translates into ~42K per year.  Quite pathetic
                      if you do have 4-6 years of experience.  And
                      if you don't, notice the original post was asking
                      salary range for a person that does have 4-6 yrs
                      of experience.  For a Berkeley EE/CS graduate, I
                      would say ~80K would be reasonable.
                \_ This is really funny.  Bullshitters posting their
                   respective salaries on the motd.
                        \_ I know at least 3 of those are real inc. the 100k.
                \_ $22.50/hr when I started Taos
                   $40/hr when I left
                   $70/hr now or about $90K on salary
                        Oh, and Taos will pay you as little as possible,
                        as will any company if you let them.
                \_ Started Taos at $20/hr with no experience,
                   have been raised to $60K/yr after working one year

        \_9" long.  Oh wait, you wanted to compare salaries not ...
                \_ 3" ... wide.
                   \_ That translates into ~42K per year.  Quite pathetic
                                \_ you know, i realise that salaries in
                                   high tech are generally much higher than
                                   this, but to call $42K per year pathetic
                                   is really unexcusable.  that is a very
                                   good salary in the real world.
                      if you do have 4-6 years of experience.  And
                      if you don't, notice the original post was asking
                      salary range for a person that does have 4-6 yrs
                      of experience.  For a Berkeley EE/CS graduate, I
                      would say ~80K would be reasonable.
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