3/18    looking at mi professors and tas and manager resumes, these people dont
        know how to c0de shit in perl and c/c++ and shell and java, yet they
        make/will make more $ than me, what the fuck?
        \_ I have actually heard a manager refer to programmers, unflinchinly,
           as "unskilled labor", by which I think he meant disposable/inter-
           changeable or something.   Im not sure
           \_ It depends on what kind of application you develop.  I would
              not call people developing optimized 3d game engine or
              financial application "unskilled".
              \_ No, people who develop financial applications are unskilled.
                 Gamers are pretty cool, though.
        \_ demand for a raise and see how high you can go
        \_ Because coding is for kiddies.  You can teach any idiot how to
           code.  It really isn't that hard.  Look how many idiots are doing
           it right now.  No PhD required.  If you wanted to make big bucks
           you went into the wrong field and now possess the wrong skills.
           Sorry, but you're pretty confused about the world and your career
           is already fucked.  Time to retrain I guess.
        \_ It doesn't matter anyway; when bh and his Communist GNU buddies win,
           you'll all be writing code for free.  (Hope you like doing
           support . . . )
                \_ POT STICKER POWER!  YEE HAA!  Actually I'm glad we have
                   self appointed victims like the FSF/GNU people but I
                   wouldn't want to be one.
                \_ If it weren't for GNU cc, our lives would REALLY be
                   fun. (you, yes you, could write your projects using
                   ULTRIX cc!) I, for one, am rather thankful to have
                   cross-platform tools that *work* for a change... -brg
                   \_ I did.  Thanks.  Wasn't much different except the
                      code ran a tiny bit faster.