Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 13389
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
 
WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ
http://csua.com/feed/
2024/12/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
12/25   

2004/4/26 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:13389 Activity:nil
4/26    US warns Taiwan not to perceive pledge of defense as blank check
        http://csua.org/u/72p (NYTimes: csuamotd/csuamotd)
        \_ thank you for the csuamotd!! now i can read NY times!!
           \_ and numerous other pseudo-free registration sites.
        \_ Yeah, that and all the other news I've been reading still suggests
           that the U.S. doesn't think Taiwanese independence is worth it;
           if Taiwan wants to break the status quo by pushing for formal
           independence, we might break away from the Taiwan Relations Act --
           there is only one China
           \_ If it comes down to it, I don't think it's worth it either.
              The status quo works.  I don't want to get into a war with
              China over a semantic pissing match.
           \_ The current status quo only works up to now because it is based
              on the assumption of a static model that the 2 sides are on
              equal military footing.  However, the situation across the TW
              Strait is dynamic one. With recent missiles build up in CN,
              CN is estimated to have the capability to invade and take TW
              by 2006-2008.  TW's current administration is under time
              pressure to take some form of action by then.  One scenario is
              an outright formal independence.  Another one is unification
              under CN's one-china terms.  The current status quo is
              unlikely to be able to last for another 10 years.
              \_ "With recent missiles build up in CN, CN is estimated to
                 have the capability to invade and take TW by 2006-2008" --
                 this is the first time I've seen this, and I read a lot
                 of stuff.  "TW's current administration is under time
                 pressure to take some form of action by then".  Have you
                 considered that a vastly more important factor could be that
                 Chen's term will be up by then so he's trying to get the
                 change in while he can, since Ma, KMT's probable candidate,
                 will probably win in 2008 and follow this with dropping any
                 pro-independence measures in progress?
                 \_ Actually this quote suddenly appeared on some newspaper
                    from Taiwan today, ostensibly quoting Jane's, which, as
                    I recall, has always been giving fuzzy statements like that
                    not just on China but just about any contentious subject,
                    but the dates keep changing.
2024/12/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
12/25   

You may also be interested in these entries...
2012/7/21-9/24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:54440 Activity:nil
7/21    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cold_War_pilot_defections
        This week's food for thought, brought to you by People's
        Republic of Berkeley: Did you know that many US pilots defected to
        communist Cuba?  South Korea pilots defected to communist
        North Korea? Iran<->Iraq pilots defected to each other?
        W Germany pilots defected to E Germany? Taiwan/ROC pilots
	...
2010/7/20-8/11 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53889 Activity:low
7/20    Is jblack still on? What about the rest of the pro-war cheerleaders?
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100720/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_iraq_inquiry
        \_ War is fought for the glory of generals and the economics of the
           war machine.  Looking for "justifications" for it is like looking
           for sense in the necronomicon.  Just accept it and move on.
        \_ When we fight with Red China, what nation will we use as a proxy?
	...
2010/2/4-3/4 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Computer/Rants] UID:53692 Activity:nil
2/4     Don't be evil.  Unless it's with China, or doubleclick, or the NSA...
        \_ Google on the China deal: "We're not being evil because
             we'll do a better job providing information to the
             Chinese than any other company."
           Google on getting out of the China deal: "We're not
             evil because we're cutting our losses in China
	...
2010/1/11-19 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:53621 Activity:nil
1/11    A-Bian the former Taiwanese president is so corrupt. Man,
        those southerners can never be trusted.
        \_ Come on.  Even pro-KMT people would say "Ah-Bian => southerners" is
           a troll.
           \_ Ok. So what is AHHHH-Bian3 then?
              \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Shui_Bian
	...
2009/4/23-28 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:52899 Activity:nil
4/20    Ok, I am not a Jew hater.  In fact, most of my so-called "white"
        friends turned out to be Jews.   And I am fortunate to have
        \_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UeBZiz_Dks
           \_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Xiy5aK3AU&NR=1
        opportunity to work with whole bunch Israelis and working with them
        has been an absolute pleasure.  HOWEVER, I just failed to understand
	...
2009/4/21-23 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:52884 Activity:kinda low
4/20    Ok, I am not a Jew hater.  In fact, most of my so-called "white"
        friends turned out to be Jews.   And I am fortunate to have
        opportunity to work with whole bunch Israelis and working with them
        has been an absolute pleasure.  HOWEVER, I just failed to understand
        why people got offended by the speech by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.  In my
        relatively neutral point of view (I am an Asian),  most of what he
	...
2009/4/9-20 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:52835 Activity:moderate
4/9     I've been reading articles about piracy and it's not really an issue
        of there being just two dozen ships to patrol a large area. It
        only really takes one ship, if it's the right ship (an aircraft
        carrier). The Navy should be using helicopters and ship-based
        aircraft (e.g., Harriers) to patrol and respond to these incidents
        and then you only need a couple of destroyers to perform
	...
Cache (1959 bytes)
csua.org/u/72p -> www.nytimes.com/reuters/international/international-taiwan-china-usa.html
Despite the lack of formal diplomatic ties, Washington is Taiwans main arms supplier and major trading partner. The AIT serves as a de facto embassy that handles United States interests on the island. The United States is committed to make available defensive arms and defensive services to help Taiwan meet its self-defense needs, Keegan told a symposium to mark the 25th anniversary of the Taiwan Relations Act, which mandates Washington to supply the island with weapons. We believe a secure and self-confident Taiwan is a Taiwan that is more capable of engaging in political interaction and dialogue with the PRC and we expect Taiwan will not interpret our support as a blank check to resist such dialogue. Washington switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to the Peoples Republic of China PRC in Beijing in 1979 and stated United States acknowledgment of the Chinese position that there is only one China and Taiwan is part of it. But the Taiwan Relations Act says any attempt to determine Taiwans future by non-peaceful means would be of grave concern to the United States, and obliges Washington to supply Taiwan with defensive weapons. China considers Taiwan a renegade province that must be reunited, by force if necessary, and has said the Taiwan Relations Act sends wrong signals to Taiwan independence forces. Washington has become increasingly alarmed in recent months by President Chen Shui-bians plans to adopt a new constitution and other steps that could be perceived as moving Taiwan toward independence, analysts said. Last week, United States Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly warned Taiwan that unilateral moves toward independence could destroy its economic and democratic miracle. He urged Chen to take Chinas threats of military retaliation seriously. While reassuring Taipei it could continue to count on United States support and friendship, Keegan repeated Washingtons opposition to any moves toward Taiwan independence.