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2004/4/26 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:13380 Activity:nil
4/26    Kerry doesn't own an SUV, his family does:
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4009850,00.html
        \_ Oooh!  Tell us about Roger Clinton!
        \_ Funny how he both uses his wife as a dodge, by saying it's not
           really *his* car, and sets himself up as a hero for buying
           an American car.  So, is owning a Chevy SUV good or bad Mr.
           Kerry?
        \_ 'Cos when your own candidate is suffering due to a war he created
           and the lies he told, it's best to point to his opponent's car.
           \_ The point here is that Kerry lied about owning the car
              because he didn't want to look bad. He should've just told
              the truth. He is a career politican in the worse sense.
        \_ 1 SUV is less expensive than 80 billion to invade iraq
              \_ unlike Bush?
              \_ Oh Bullpucky. I hate my wife's car and would sell it in
                 a hearbeat if I could, but since she bought it before
                 we were married I just have to put up with it. I am sure
                 with a millionaire wife, she can buy whatever car she
                 likes, with or without her husbands permission. It is not
                 "his" car unless he drives it. Does he drive it?
              \_ This is just sad.  The man's wife's car is about as relevant
                 to this campaign as Laura Bush's formerly liberal ideals.
                 \_ As I pointed out above, I don't care what he drives,
                    but the fact that he's making such pathetic attempts
                    to lie about it.  Not to mention, but since they are
                    married, it IS "his" car.
                    \_ I am pretty sure married people can own property
                       seperately. Am I wrong here?
                       \_ For those who espouse traditional family values
                          as republicans do, marriage is an absolutely form
                          of bondage.  Yes.
                          \_ Don't be an idiot.  It has nothing to do
                             with republicans.  They didn't set up the
                             marriage and divorce laws.
                    \_ When you get married to an independent woman, check
                       back in with us.  Until then, get a life.
                       \_ So says the same sort of idiot that put in place
                          the "divorce means the woman gets half the man's
                          stuff" laws.  According to the law, just
                          property is jointly held.  (Unless they have a
                          prenup that says otherwise.)
                          \_ Which state?  California is a community property
                             state.  How about Massachussetts?  And if you
                             ask me if I support Windows, I'll tell you no,
                             because I own and use a Mac exclusively; my
                             wife's PC is nothing to do with me, despite my
                             community property interest.  This is pure
                             bullshit semantics.
                          \_ You don't know what you are talking about:
                             http://csua.org/u/72l
                             "Separate property is property that each spouse
                              owned before the marriage. Separate property
                              also includes inheritances and gifts (except
                              perhaps gifts between spouses) acquired during
                              marriage. During and after the marriage, each
                              spouse may keep control of his or her separate
                              property." She came into the marriage worth
                              $400M, surely she is able to afford to buy
                              her own seperate car, unless they have
                              comingled their accounts. Do you have any
                              evidence otherwise?
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