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2004/4/21-22 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:13314 Activity:nil
4/21    Doonesbury's got me wondering: are there any stats for the number
        of soldiers maimed in the current war?  I've heard the new body
        armor is superb at protecting the torso, but that means (potentially)
        more soldiers losing limbs instead of dying.  Does "700 dead" tell a
        reasonably accurate story?
        \_ An old article, but it does begin to address your query.
           http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1041822,00.html
           I would imagine the numbers have increased quite a bit given the
           past month's events. -- ulysses
        \_ 700 is not purely accurate no matter how you slice it. It's just
           the number dead in Iraq from hostile and non-hostile action. The
           number of wounded is a much higher ratio than most war conflicts
           due to improved body armor, equipment, supply, and tactics.
           Details: http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
        \_ a much more interesting question to ask is how many civilian
           iraqi casualties have there been? would it suprise you to find
           out that it's >10x this number?
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The figures will shock many Americans, who believe that casualties in the war in Iraq have been relatively light. Recent polls show that support for President George Bush and his administrations policy in Iraq has been slipping. The number of casualties will also increase pressure on Bush to share the burden of occupying Iraq with more nations. Attempts to broker an international alliance to pour more men and money into Iraq foundered yesterday when Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, brusquely rejected a French proposal as totally unrealistic. Three US soldiers were killed last week, bringing the number of combat dead since hostilities in Iraq were declared officially over on 1 May to 68. It is military police policy to announce that a soldier has been wounded only if they were involved in an incident that involved a death. Critics of the policy say it hides the true extent of the casualties. The new figures reveal that 1,178 American soldiers have been wounded in combat operations since the war began on 20 March. It is believed many of the American casualties evacuated from Iraq are seriously injured. Modern body armour, worn by almost all American troops, means wounds that would normally kill a man are avoided. There are also concerns that many men serving in Iraq will suffer psychological trauma. Experts at the National Army Museum in London said studies of soldiers in the First and Second World Wars showed that it was prolonged exposure to combat environments that was most damaging. Some American units, such as the Fourth Infantry Division, have been involved in frontline operations for more than six months. Andrew Robertshaw, an expert at the museum, said wars also claimed casualties after they were over. Soldiers were dying from injuries sustained during World War I well into the 1920s, he said. British soldiers are rotated more frequently than their American counterparts. The Ministry of Defence has recently consulted the National Army Museum about psychological disorders suffered by combatants in previous wars in a bid to avoid problems. Giant C-17 transport jets on medical evacuation missions land at Andrews Air Force Base, near Washington, every night. Battlefield casualties are first treated at Army field hospitals in Iraq then sent to Landstuhl Regional Medical Centre in Germany, where they are stabilised. As the planes taxi to a halt, gangplanks are lowered and the wounded are carried or walk out. A fleet of ambulances and buses meet the C-17s most nights to take off the most seriously wounded. Those requiring urgent operations and amputations are ferried to Americas two best military hospitals, the Walter Reed Army Medical Centre, near Washington, and the National Naval Medical Centre, Bethesda. Dealing with the aftermath of amputations and blast injuries is common. Mines, home-made bombs and rocket-propelled grenades are the weapons of choice of the Iraqi resistance fighters. The less badly wounded stay overnight at the air base, where an indoor tennis club and a community centre have been turned into a medical staging facility. A local volunteer group, called Americas Heroes of Freedom, has set up on the base to provide them with fresh clothes, food packages and toiletries. This is our way of saying, We have not forgotten you, said group founder Susan Brewer.
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To View Period Details Click The Period Number View Fatality Names and Details Fatality Metrics Hostile/NonHostile Timeline Attacks By Date & Place Casualties Trends Since Fall of Baghdad US Fatalities By State US Fatalities with DOD Links US Fatalities City Map The Wounded: US Military by Month Month . As Reported By Centcom The Department of Defense has changed their methodology for reporting wounded casualties. They are now reporting the wounded in 2 categories: Wounded In Action- returned to action within 72 hours Wounded In Action- not returned to action within 72 hours The totals will no longer be updated daily. Date Reported WIA -RTD WIA - Not RTD as 4/2/2004 1078 1910 Week ending 4/9/2004 59 222 Total 1137 2132 Please note: At the time the methodology changed, the wounded totals were significantly lowered from what had been previously reported. Wounded Timeline Daily Wounded Totals Please Help Keep This Site Running. Recent articles about this site have brought many new readers and with the higher readership comes higher cost. If you have not contributed to this site please consider making a donation.