Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 13098
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2004/4/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:13098 Activity:nil
4/8     Claim vs. Fact with Rice's Opening Statement and Q&A:
        http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=44887
        http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=44918
        \_ Cool, mind if I send you to an equally biased site for a
           "claim vs fact" on this or other hot button topics?  Why do so
           many of you think your biased crap will be taken seriously by
           anyone who isn't already a singing member of the choir?
           \_ Hey, if we can have freep and drudge links we can have
              American Progress links.  They're more credible than both of
              those sites put together anyway - the left equivalent to
              freep would be international ANSWER, or something...
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Fact: Condoleezza Rices Opening Statement April 8, 2004 CLAIM: We decided immediately to continue pursuing the Clinton Administrations covert action authorities and other efforts to fight the network. FACT: Newsweek reported that In the months before 9/11, the United States Justice Department curtailed a highly classified program called Catchers Mitt to monitor al-Qaida suspects in the United States. Additionally, AP reported though Predator drones spotted Osama bin Laden as many as three times in late 2000, the Bush administration did not fly the unmanned planes over Afghanistan during its first eight months, thus terminating the reconnaissance missions started during the Clinton Administration. AP, 6/25/03 CLAIM: The strategy set as its goal the elimination of the al-Qaida network. It ordered the leadership of relevant United States departments and agencies to make the elimination of al-Qaida a high priority and to use all aspects of our national power - intelligence, financial, diplomatic, and military - to meet this goal. Rice said, Our plan called for military options to attack Al Qaida and Taliban leadership? Source: 9/11 Commission testimony, 3/24/04 CLAIM: We bolstered the Treasury Departments activities to track and seize terrorist assets. FACT: The new Bush Treasury Department disapproved of the Clinton Administrations approach to money laundering issues, which had been an important part of the drive to cut off the money flow to bin Laden. Specifically, the Bush Administration opposed Clinton Administration-backed efforts by the G-7 and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development that targeted countries with loose banking regulations being abused by terrorist financiers. Meanwhile, the Bush Administration provided no funding for the new National Terrorist Asset Tracking Center. Source: The Age of Sacred Terror, 2003 CLAIM: We moved quickly to arm Predator unmanned surveillance vehicles for action against al-Qaida. FACT: According to AP, the military successfully tested an armed Predator throughout the first half of 2001 but the White House failed to resolve a debate over whether the CIA or Pentagon should operate the armed Predators and the armed Predator never got off the ground before 9/11. Source: AP, 6/25/03 CLAIM: We increased funding for counterterrorism activities across several agencies. FACT: Upon taking office, the 2002 Bush budget proposed to slash more than half a billion dollars out of funding for counterterrorism at the Justice Department. Newsweek noted the Administration vetoed a request to divert $800 million from missile defense into counterterrorism.
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She said, Let me read you some of the actual chatter that was picked up in that spring and summer: Unbelievable news coming in weeks, said one. Source: Condoleezza Rice, 4/8/04 Cheney Counterterrorism Task Force CLAIM: The Vice President was, a little later in, I think, in May, tasked by the President to put together a group to look at all of the recommendations that had been made about domestic preparedness and all of the questions associated with that. Secretary Mineta, the secretary of transportation, had no idea of the threat. The administrator of the FAA, responsible for security on our airlines, had no idea. Source: 9/11 Commissioner Jamie Gorelick, 4/8/04 Previous Administration CLAIM: The decision that we made was to, first of all, have no drop-off in what the Clinton administration was doing, because clearly they had done a lot of work to deal with this very important priority. And according to a new report by the Congressional Research Service, numerous confidential law enforcement and intelligence sources who challenge the FBIs claim that it has successfully retooled itself to gather critical intelligence on terrorists as well as fight crime. Congressional Quarterly, 4/6/04 CLAIM: The FBI issued at least three nationwide warnings to federal, state and law enforcement agencies and specifically stated that, although the vast majority of the information indicated overseas targets, attacks against the homeland could not be ruled out. The FBI tasked all 56 of its United States field offices to increase surveillance of known suspects of terrorists and to reach out to known informants who might have information on terrorist activities. The ability to spot the nations weakest points was going to make Homeland Security different, recalled one person involved in the decision to set up TTIC. But now, the person said, that whole effort has been gutted by the White House creation of TTIC, which has served little more than to give the appearance of progress. Source: National Journal, 3/6/04 IRAQ-9/11 CLAIM: There was a discussion of Iraq. FACT: Rices statement confirms previous proof that the Administration was focusing on Iraq immediately after 9/11, despite having no proof that Iraq was involved in the attack. Rices statement also contradicts her previous denials in which she claimed Iraq was to the side immediately after 9/11. She made this denial despite the President signing a 2-and-a-half-page document marked TOP SECRET six days after 9/11 that directed the Pentagon to begin planning military options for an invasion of Iraq. Washington Post, 1/12/03 CLAIM: Given that this was a global war on terror, should we look not just at Afghanistan but should we look at doing something against Iraq? FACT: The Administration has not produced one shred of evidence that Iraq had an operational relationship with Al Qaeda, or that Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks on America. In fact, a United States Army War College report said that the war in Iraq has been a diversion that has drained key resources from the more imminent War on Terror. Just this week, USA Today reported that in 2002, troops from the 5th Special Forces Group who specialize in the Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to prepare for their next assignment: Iraq. Bob Graham D-FL confirmed this, noting in February of 2002, a senior military commander told him We are moving military and intelligence personnel and resources out of Afghanistan to get ready for a future war in Iraq. Bob Graham D-FL, 3/26/04 War on Terror CLAIM: After 9/11, the President put states on notice if they were sponsoring terrorists. FACT: The President continues to say Saudi Arabia is our friend despite their potential ties to terrorists. As the LA Times reported, the 27 classified pages of a congressional report about Sept.