4/7     http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/international/middleeast/08SHIA.html
        Both Sunni and Shiite insurgecies broadbased.  Those ungrateful
        people.  Let's just get out and let them kill one another.
        \_ but then we don't get to take their oil!
           \_ duh, if it was about oil then invading was the most stupid thing
              we possibly could have done.  the smart thing would have been
              to let Hussein keep Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and continue buying
              oil from him without all the messy wars and sanctions and
              inspections in between.  it has little to do with oil.  it has
              everything to do with restructuring the cold war world into the
              post cold war era.  this is all about power, not energy.
                \_ Sorry, that wouldn't have been smart.  Having a syphilitic
                   dictator in charge of that much oil would have been dumb.
                   He might decide he wanted more money, and with that much
                   of the supply, he could ensure he got it.  Also, with
                   that much wealth, he could develop nukes.  Look at how much
                   fun North Korea is.  And they're not even rich.
                   \_ Yeah, except for all of the UN people running around
                      trying to expose non-existant weapons, and the oil
                      fields trashed from 10+ years of no spare parts. And the
                      internally corrupted sycophants who drained Hussein of
                      money while producing very little.
                   \_ Oh so you think the way it's gone was so much better for
                      the oil industry and everyone else?  Riiiiight.
        \_ Build fence, throw in guns.  -John
           \_ they've already got plenty of guns.
              \_ Fantastic.  More money for fencing.  -John
                 \_ Israel agrees. Fences stop everything.
                    \_ Hey, the idea is good.  Building it through Abdul the
                       apple farmer's backyard so as not to spoil some
                       religious fanatic's view is another question.  -John
                       \_ So you intend to fence in what? All of Iraq?
                          \_ All of Israel and the occupied territories. We'll
                             check back in in about ten years.
                    \_ you really should talk to CHINESE about fenses.  Our
                       fences was thousands of miles in length and it didn't
                       really didn't do much good.
        \_ I read the article; wow, it sounds bad now.  Most other major
           newspapers will have stories tomorrow echoing this thesis, well,
           except Fox News.
           \_ It's the NYT.  Of course the rest of the media will echo the
              story.  I sure love having a single news room creating the news.
              Thankfully the NYT is no longer the mouth-of-god-to-the-public's-
              ear that it used to be.
        \_ The question is, how do we make sure us last longer than they
           do.  For answer, see below.
           \_ "Try the Extended Pleasure condoms by Trojan?" I guess that's
              one way to work them over, but while Marines might be use to
              sodomy those Army guys will need some teaching.
        \_ Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
           \_ Odd, the September 11th terrorists thought the same way.