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2004/4/2 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:12985 Activity:high
4/2     WMD in Iraq.  Maybe, maybe not.
        http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3453
        \_ how many times have we heard a variation of this argument?
           \_ And you're still not listening?
              \_ Ever heard "The Neocon Who Cried WMD"?
        \_ This guy is being deliberately disingenuous: "Ricin and botulinum
           toxin have already been found in sufficient quantities to
           regenerate a biological weapon (BW) capability in short order."
           The BT found was not a precursor to weapon quality BT and the
           statement on ricin is simply bizarre, since it is created from
           castor beans. As an NBC expert, he knows better too.
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www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3453
Despite contracting out for assistance in document exploitation last October, only a small fraction of the seized documents have been analyzed. Keep in mind that the ISG is largely composed of personnel from the CIA, State Department, such as Duelfer, and the Defense Intelligence Agency DIA, such as the deputy, Maj. These are the same organizations that are currently getting raked over the coals for bureaucratic bungling of intelligence prior to 9-11. In turn, the beleaguered agencies are deflecting this criticism to the President and his national security advisors, by essentially complaining the devil made me do it. In other words, their technical and tactical incompetence and/or their motivation to embarrass the administration has allowed the ISG to make proclamations about WMD stockpiles that minimize the significance of their findings, or deliberately downplay and contradict the findings of Coalition forces in the field. The anti-war left and the media continuously shift the goal posts about WMD stockpiles. One nuclear bomb is not really a stockpile, but it would only take one, set off in an American city or dropped on US forces in the field, to make everybody wake up and smell the coffee. What did we expect to find in Iraq, the equivalent of the Pantex Plant ? In fact, we did find hundreds of metric tons of yellowcake and low-enriched uranium. A stockpile of bio-weapons can be kept in a fridge in a scientists house. Ricin and botulinum toxin have already been found in sufficient quantities to regenerate a biological weapon BW capability in short order. No, the standard established by the left and their allies in the media is that we must find chemical weapons CW. That is, if the US has not found pallets of CW projectiles in ammo dumps or munitions factories or at Iraqi Army unit areas, well then that George Bush flat-out lied to us. 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