3/31 CSUA math majors, I need to take Math 104 next semester. Since there
are several sections, I want to pick the one taught by someone who's
a decent lecturer and a fair grader. I can take it with either of
these profs: Mints, Yong, Sarason, Silver. Any good or bad experiences
with these?
\_ I've taken stuff with Sarason and Silver years ago.
Frankly, Silver is horrible. Brilliant, nice guy but
is really introverted to an extreme degree. He's really
hard to communicate with. Sarason is a "no frills"
guy - tough, but a straight shooter. Perhaps one of the
best analysis teachers Berkeley has. He is also
a solid graudate analysis instructor as well. I have
no experience w/Young or Mints. -fab
\_ I had a very good experience with Sarason for 104. If I remember
\_ I had a very good experience with Saruman for 104. If I remember
correctly, Silver is the old guy with the alarming permanent sore
on his head who refuses to look at the class. His lectures
are worthless. Avoid.
are worthless. Avoid.
\_ I took H104 with Saruman many many years ago. He was good then.
\_ I took H104 with Sarason many many years ago. He was good then.
\_ So... You have chosen... the way of pain!
\_ 104 entails a little bit of real work, but if you find it
demanding, you shoiuld probably change field.
\_ Silver. Real analysis is a lot of work, don't take a lot of other
hard classes next semester, but I am sure you know all this already.
-- ilyas
\_ 104 entails a little bit of real work, but if you find it
demanding, you shoiuld probably change field.
demanding, you should probably change field.
\_ Hahahahahaha!
\_ Are you sure you have to take 104? Do you want to take 104? Is it
a prereq for something else? Or do you just need any upper division
math?
\_ It's a prereq for complex analysis, probability theory, measure
\- strange as this may seem, i am not sure
you really need 104 for 185. 185 and 110
are the only ud math classes i can think
of where you actually solve problems rather
than just doing pfs [like do some integrals]
i note in passing, some of the comments
on AMAZONG for Baby Rudin are pretty funny.
(in a math gnurd sort of way, not like
story of ping). btw, is berkeley still
using Rudin or has C. Pugh's book replaced
it? if your brain is not extremely large,
the bartle analysis book might be a good
crutch. do not get the horrible Dover book
even if it is still $7. --psb
\_ What does "needed" mean in math? All you
really "need" is enough 'math maturity'
to understand the proofs and do problems.
185 "needs" 104 because a lot of 185
proofs assume things you proved in 104,
much like an operating system assumes
some things ee people do. On the
practical side, the kinds of problems and
proofs one does in 104 come up in 185.
185 is an easier class. One wonders if
a prereq for something else? Or do you just need any upper division
math?
\_ It's a prereq for complex analysis, probability theory, measure
that's because it always comes after 104.
\_ Some of 110 sections this semester are
using Sheldon Axler's liner algebra
texbook which is mostly concept oriented
rather than computational in nature. So
far I enjoy learning from it.
theory, point set topology, and pretty much any other 'continuous
math' class you might want to take. -- ilyas
\_ I need and want to take it. I am aspiring to math minor. Also,
I am hoping to take advanced probability course later.
\_ Only three more classes for a major! -- ilyas
\_ And you can have classes overlap between majors, so there
really is no good reason not to get a major. --darin
btw-104 isn't as hard as is rumored, but IS at least as
important as is rumored.
\_ I never took 104 but lots of geeky friends did. It
\_ I need and want to take it. I am aspiring to math minor. Also,
I am hoping to take advanced probability course later.
\_ Only three more classes for a major! -- ilyas
really is no good reason not to get a major. --darin
btw-104 isn't as hard as is rumored, but IS at least as
important as is rumored.
\_ I never took 104 but lots of geeky friends did. It
seemed to me that the difficulty level comes from the
prof teaching that semester, not the material.
seemed to me that the difficulty level comes from the
prof teaching that semester, not the material.
\- helo. i thought (h)113 was a *lot* harder than (h)104.
material in 104 was tought but exams were pretty
easy. is this going to be your first class with
10hr problem sets? oh if you want to do probability
might take 105 too. measure theory is quite exciting.
\_ Ditto, algebra was much harder than analysis for
me. -- ilyas
\_ That's because you two are both insane. |
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