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3/31 So "strategy" = follow the herd? Following the herd
would definitely multiply our allies. That's asinine,
I admit. Let's then say that Bush 1) Lobbied Congress to
put three electric fences along our northern and southern
borders. 2) Stop letting unmarried males of age 18-35
of Muslim heritage into this country. 3) Had the police
deport every illegal alien caught. Would he or would he
not have been branded as racist and divisive? The
murderers won't be happy until: 1) We abandon Israel
2) You are praying to Mecca 5x a day 3) The women are
wearing burqas.
\_ why would praying to Mecca be so bad? Aren't you essentially
praying to Israel?
\_ Christians and Jews back Israel because according to the
Word of God, God's time for Israel's punishment was up;
the Jews returned on schedule http://www.yfiles.com/y3nf.html
To want the destruction of Israel is to be against God's
people and God. To love God's people and help them is to
love God's plan. It definitely grieve's God's heart
to watch us kill His enemies without them accepting Jesus
Christ. I don't remember our support of Israel being openly
questioned until the last two years, and the next step for
the US for an incoming Democratic administration is
abandoning God's people Israel, and that will end
what remains of His blessing on this country.
\_ people have questioned our support of israel for decades --
it's just because Israel has stepped up its "actions against
terrorism" that there are more people speaking up louder
\_ I think Bush mishandled the diplomacy but I don't think you can
realistically say we lost allies or increased enemies. We are
still allied with all the same old allies, and have all the same
old enemies. Where's the difference? There was just more bickering
in NATO.
\_ If you have chance, go outside of USA. Anti-USA sentiment is
at all time high, mostly due to our policy toward Iraq.
\_ I doubt it (the mostly due to Iraq part). Where does this
matter? Not in Europe. China? They'd whip up people against
USA no matter what, because this furthers the autocratic
interests (but they also like US money). The Russians are
getting blown up themselves, I'm doubt in a few years that
Iraq alone will have been enough to make people hate the USA.
In the end, Saddam was such that defending him is laughable.
The problem for us is the huge costs we're incurring, which
IMO wasn't justified, and the credibility disaster of how
Bush chose to present and conduct the operation, which was
the only way they could win domestic support for it.
\_ The error in your thinking is that not seeing a reason
to attack Saddam is not the same as "defending him."
The error is so large that it clouds your entire
worldview.
\_ There were plenty of reasons to attack him and
everyone knows it. Ignoring that clouds YOUR
worldview.
\_ Why did almost everyone counsel against it then?
No valid reasons were given to the international
community. The only halfway decent one was
given ex post facto, which doesn't cut it.
\_ Saddam and his history was "enough" to attack him.
Anyway my point is that although it may have been
inadvisable, and people quibble with the means,
no one argues against the end, and it's not
changing who are our allies/enemies.
\_ That is your opinion and I disagree with it.
Read some opinion polls about how the world
regards America today compared with 2000.
\_ if you disagree show me an example. you're
the one asserting that there's a difference.
opinion polls are worthless, but i haven't
seen one showing any substantive change.
\_ link:csua.org/u/6pi
Hope you have an Economist subscription
http://csua.org/u/6pj
Here is one that is free.
\_ The world is not black and white, the way you seem to think
that it is. Bush's father was able to assemble a coalition
using diplomacy and kind words. Dubya drove everyone off with
his strong words and bluster.
\_ hey, you can't have everything all the time
\_ Isn't it black and white to assume 1991=2001?
\_ he didn't make that assumption. -tom
\_ You are right tom. He didn't necessarily make such an
assumption. But was Bush necessarily wrong to call 9/11
an evil act? Perhaps it was hypocritical of us to call
Iraq/Afghanistan evil and invade them, and not give China
Korea, and Saudi Arabia the same treatment. But was it
so off base as to be an outright lie?
\_ The mistake was lumping Iraq/Afghanistan together
like that. The whole world outside of a here could
see that they were very different cases. A true
friend and ally tells you when you are about to
make a big mistake, like Germany did. |
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| www.yfiles.com/y3nf.html Stephen Hawkings Universe Implodes Stephen Hawkings Universe Implodes By Guy Cramer Irreversibility in the Direction of Time has been questioned with 3 documented cases of apparent massive time reversals. If he chooses to respond publicly, his response will be posted at this site. When reading any modern physics book the average person may be surprised to find that time is not constant in the universe. Under normal circumstances time cannot reverse, however, it can slow down or speed up. A time reversal is not impossible with known physical law, but referred to as - a virtually infinitely unlikely event, it is too unlikely to expect it actually to happen. In other words it is known as the irreversibility in the direction of time. Evidence that the direction of time reversed twice in the last 50 years. Over 2,500 years ago, the history of a country and a city were foretold and documented accurately to within days of modern events that took place within the last 50 years. The predictions are so accurate that they baffle theoretical physicist of our time. The only possible explanations are massive time reversals, and according to our present knowledge of the universe, this should be impossible for a three dimensional being. Only a being that exists in higher dimensions would be able to transcend the time-line forwards and backwards at will. The Bible tells us that God transcends time: In the beginning time , God created the heavens space and the earth matter . Genesis 1:1 A being who created time, space, and matter must be able to operate outside these boundaries. A prophecy could deceptively be authored into an earlier scripture after the event has happened, so this doesnt offer any proof of transcendence to the modern day skeptic. In 1988 a calculation was discovered in the Bible that accurately foretold the exact year of 1948 for the Independence of Israel over 2,500 years after the prophecy was made. The prophet Jeremiah around 600 BC predicted that because the Jews were turning away from God to idol worship and other Gods he would punish them for 70 years under Babylonian captivity see: Jeremiah 25:11. It has been historically documented that this did indeed take place, but again this prophecy could have been written in the Bible after the 70 years were fulfilled. Ezekiel, another prophet, was also alive at this time, further prophesied in Ezekiel 4:3-6 that God knew that his people still would turn away from Him. Ezekiel was given a mathematical calculation, which clearly stated the number of years that this punishment lasted would equal 430 years. When we subtract the initial 70 years of punishment from the 430 years, we end up with 360 years of punishment that has been added to the initial 70 years. It has been determined that Biblical Prophecy uses a 360 day per year rule, not 365 days per year. See: Y94 What happened at the end of the 360 prophetic years of punishment? The people of Israel failed to repent of their sin and disobedience again. No further words in the Bible are given on this, but Grant Jeffrey found a solution to the calculation at an earlier point in the Bible. Leviticus 26:18 And after all this, if you do not obey Me God, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. The historical records from non-biblical sources confirms the start times for these prophecies. Were the Jews able to fulfill these ancient prophecies knowing the above calculations. Did they understand that 1948 was foretold and they declared their independence in 1948. Did they then cause the Egyptians to attack them in 1967 which would allow them to take Jerusalem under Israeli government rule for the first time since 587 BC There are a few overwhelming problems if we assume the Jews and Arabs collaborated together to achieve fulfilled prophecy. The political and religious views of the Jews and Arabs are completely at odds with each other. Could the Jews have been able to purposely fulfill the prophecies without the help of the Arabs? This would be highly unlikely when one reviews the military history of two dates in question of 1948 and 1967. Military action in both cases was initiated by the surrounding Arab nations. To purposely fulfill these two dates should have been suicide for the country. Also, in purposely fulfilling the 2 prophecies the Jews would then provide evidence that Jesus was the Messiah. There is a third prophecy by Daniel that was given at approximately the same time as the other two prophecies. Daniel 9:24: Seventy weeks are determined for your people Israel and for your holy city Jerusalem , to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Just one verse later in Daniel we read about the third prophecy: Daniel 9:25: Know therefore and understand , That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince There shall be seven weeks and sixty two weeks; The street shall be built again and the wall, Even in troublesome times. NKJV Another mathematical calculation: Daniel 9:25 states that from the time of the command to rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be 483 years. If a shabuim is a week seven of years, it therefore follows that 69 sevens is 483 years 69 x 7483 years. The logical choice is the decree of Artaxerxes to Nehemiah Nehemiah 2:1-8. Because it is the only decree that mentions rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem. The commandment to restore and build Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus on March 14, 445 BC. Of course the atheists understanding the implications of all the data put forth on the Daniel 9:25 prophecy coming out to the very day, argued that the decree used as a starting point for the prophecy was not a decree at all. I reviewed the original Hebrew in both Daniel 9:25 and Nehemiah 2:1-8 and asked a Professor of Hebrew to verify it. He showed that the royal letters issued in Nehemiah 2:1-8 can be understood as a decree and even sited another reference to back this up. The book of Daniel was translated into Greek the Septuagint nearly three centuries before Jesus was even born. If the Jews were trying to fulfill biblical prophecy, they never mentioned this after the fact. The discovery that the 932,400 days also applied to Jerusalem and not just Israel was just discovered in the Summer of 1997. So the Israeli government and military both provided, quite by accident, evidence that Jesus is the Messiah. A Challange to Stephen Hawkings Universe Stephen Hawkings God is used as a word put in place of a quantum question mark. Where Stephen has no answer for something such as what caused the big bang, he uses the term God in place of a question mark, hoping one day to find an answer and use a better word in place of the question mark; When a theory in physics is presented, that most in his position would grasp until something better comes along, he follows it through to a conclusion this usually takes a day or two with Stephen and then states if it works or fails. Many theories have been presented which take the place of a Creator and a singular beginning The Big Bang, but Stephen admits that they do not fully work. He is hopeful that we will find an explanation that will rule out God in his Universe. Stephen Hawkings quotes from his book A Brief History Of Time, A readers companion Einstein once asked the question: How much choice did God have in constructing the Universe? If the no boundary proposal is correct, he had no freedom at all to choose initial conditions. He would only had the freedom to choose the laws the universe obeyed. There may well be only one unified theory that allows for the existence of structures as complicated as human beings who can investigate the laws of the universe and ask about the nature of God. |
| csua.org/u/6pj -> www.detnews.com/2004/nation/0403/16/nation-93978.htm WASHINGTON - A year after the United States-led invasion of Iraq sent anti-Americanism soaring, the United States finds itself still unpopular, feared, and mistrusted around the world, a poll out Tuesday shows. The Pew Global Attitudes Project, which polled people in eight foreign nations and the United States, found resentment of America and its policies - even of Americans themselves - has intensified, not lessened, in the last year. Thats bad news for the United States-led war on terror, experts said. Even in Muslim countries whose leaders are nominal allies in the war on terrorism - Jordan, Morocco and Pakistan - the public supports suicide bombings against Americans in Iraq. And Osama bin Laden is still far more popular than President Bush in those three countries. It forces us to ask deeply uncomfortable questions, said Kurt Campbell, director of the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. At an afternoon news conference, the poll results were described as gloomy, discouraging and disturbing. A former Bush administration official now at the center, Patrick Cronin, called the support for suicide bombings shockingly strong. What this poll shows is the credibility of the United States is sinking, said Madeleine Albright, the former Clinton administration secretary of state who chairs the Pew Global Attitudes Project. The president doesnt base his decisions on polls, White House spokesman Jim Morrell said. He bases his decisions on the best interests of the safety and security of the American people. Moroccos ambassador to the United States, Aziz Mekouar, disputed the poll results, saying the 1,000 people interviewed in Morocco do not represent the Moroccan people. Moroccans took to the streets last week to condemn the Madrid bombings, and Morocco itself was the victim of a series of al-Qaida-linked bombings in May. People in the streets questioned immediately after the terrorist attacks by TV stations and radios said that the suicide bombings were against their religious beliefs and the spirit of Islam and moreover, an act that is a stranger to the Moroccan soul, he said. The poll confirms what the Spanish elections this week showed: Many Europeans want to distance themselves from the United States. Majorities in France, Germany, Great Britain, Russia and Turkey would like to see Europe act more independently. In France and the four Muslim nations, majorities believe the United States is overreacting to terrorism. Even among the European countries, a growing number of people think the United States is overreacting. There is broad agreement in nearly all of the countries surveyed - the United States being a notable exception - that the war in Iraq hurt, rather than helped, the war on terrorism, the report reads. The United States war on terror has little support in the foreign countries even among residents of purported allies. Spokesman Gregg Sullivan of the State Department said dismal numbers are exactly why the United States is trying so hard to reach Arabs and Muslims. Its something we hope is going to improve over the long term, he said. The United States spends about $1 billion on buffing its image overseas. The government calls it public diplomacy, meaning its aimed at foreign masses, not the elite group that diplomats normally deal with. Last month, the federal government launched a 24-hour Arabic-language news channel called Alhurra The Free One aimed at balancing what the government considers anti-American slants on Arabic news stations like Al-Jazeera. The station, costing taxpayers $62 million this year, hasnt gotten a warm reception. A Saudi Supreme Court judge forbade Muslims to watch it, accusing it of being part of a war against Islam. The official in charge of United States public diplomacy, Margaret Tutwiler, told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last month that the nations lousy image developed over many years. So, too, will it take many years of hard, focused work to get out of it, she said. |