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| 2004/3/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:12921 Activity:very high |
3/30 Chen permits recount to proceed immediately, Taiwan stock market soars
http://csua.org/u/6o4 (NY Times, password needed)
U.S. forensics team talks with doctors, note openness of investigation
http://csua.org/u/6o6
Same experts discuss common misperceptions about the ballistics
http://csua.org/u/6o3
Chen comments on China's predicted hard-line move in Hong Kong
http://csua.org/u/6o5
Moron complains about Taiwan election
http://csua.org/u/6o7
\_ CSI Taipei! Was David Caruso there?
Same experts discuss common misperceptions about the ballistics
http://csua.org/u/6o3
Chen comments on China's predicted hard-line move in Hong Kong
http://csua.org/u/6o5
Moron complains about Taiwan election
http://csua.org/u/6o7
\_ Given Chen's long history as a drama queen and the very close
vote count, the opposition's peaceful and orderly demand for a
recount and investigation into the shooting incident is totally
reasonable.
\_ You should talk to the DPP college student getting beat on TV
by 4+ KMT folks for speaking to TV reporters just outside
their rally.
\_ Is that the best you can come up with for a rally of
500k people? how many people did the DPP mobs beat
up in its many rallies over the years? These days,
in many places in Taiwan, if you don't speak Taiwanese,
you can get cursed and ostracized, thanks to DPP's
divisive politics.
\_ And how many of those people (who watch KMT-biased TV
coverage) believe in the faked assassination theory?
Your dismissal of KMT's televised violence is also
disturbing.
\_ feel free to post urls of any other violent
rally incidents from the multitudes of pro-DPP
newspapers as opposed to your so-claimed
"KMT-biased TV".
newspapers.
\_ This entire thing has missed a huge point. Extremely large
number of military personnel were denied their consititution
right to vote. And it turned out that there is no legal basis
for their detention. Thus, by definition, this election
result is invalid, and thus, the legimacy of this so-called
democratic government is in question.
\_ Are you talking about Taiwan or the US?
\_ First URL, a viewpoint not well-covered by the KMT-controlled
press: "The opposition Nationalist Party on Monday publicly
dropped its demand that the Taiwan military be allowed to
vote again after a disputed presidential election a week ago...
Mr. Chen and the Defense Ministry replied that the
alert had had no effect on voting, because staggered shifts
had made it possible for the servicemen and police officers
to vote."
\_ Contrary to what this guy is saying, KMT doesn't control
the press at all. Chen and DPP is the government in
power, and has systematically moved to control the press
to silence the opposition. Just recently, the owner of
a pro-DPP press told all its employees to vote for DPP
or be fired.
\_ URL? 'Cos the same rumor mill sez the KMT drinks the
\_ This is in the news a few weeks before the
election. Go ask a few people in Taiwan and you
should find someone who've read about it. Taiwan
related news sites don't seem to keep good
archives of older articles online, so I can't
find any url, unfortunately.
blood of babies.
\_ See "Formosa Betrayed" written by U.S. vice consul
during the 2/28 incident. obGoogle. There is a
similar book called "Formosa Calling". Both are
published way back.
\_ errr .... 228 incident is 57 years ago. Taiwan's
government, while under KMT, had admitted to the
wrong doing, and had compensated families of the
victims long ago. Taiwan has been under pro-
independence presidents for the last 16 years.
yet, DPP supporters like yourself constantly need
to bring up 228 for political purposes to fan
hatred against mainlanders and their descendants,
most of whom has nothing to do with 228, or
\_ actually, I just bring up 2/28 to criticize
the KMT as a political party. I think you're
being a bit prejudiced.
weren't even born then.
\_ http://tinyurl.com/3xwo6
Search for "station". You'll find other links on google.
Like I said yesterday, the KMT has had over 50 years of
total control of Taiwan to consolidate its power.
\_ snicker ... this starry eyed russian commentator has
no clue what he is talking about. he portrayed
putin and chen as heroes of democracy. I bet he is
real happy with putin and his rubber stamp parliament
and recent election. chen of course, could not care
less about the development of democratic principles and
institutions. he will bend all rules as long as it
helps him win. the commentator also portrayed Lee
Teng-hui as representative of the big-bad KMT. He
didn't even know Lee has always sympathized with
everything the DPP believes in, and made it his
personal life mission to destroy the KMT from within.
what a joke! Of all things, you chose this
clueless commentary to post.
\_ Uh ... the point is that the KMT controls the major
TV stations, and stirs up anti-Chen sentiment in
order to get the KMT back into office.
I just want to make sure you see this.
\_ I am sorry, but if this Russian commentator is
so clueless about the above, you can't
expect anyone to accept his unsupported
assertion the Taiwan's media is controlled
by the KMT. Besides that piece of clueless
writing was from 4 years ago, kind of
outdated. I don't know about TV, but
contrary to your belief, most of Taiwan's
\_ So what would you say if I provided a URL
that showed the KMT controls the major
TV stations? Does it suffice to say that
most newspapers are pro-DPP, and most
TV stations are pro-KMT?
BTW, it was my mistake way above. When
I said "press", I meant to say "TV".
I just want to make sure you see this.
\_ snicker ... this starry eyed
newspapaers are actually pro-DPP.
\_ btw, someone broke http://csua.org/u see motd entries above |
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| csua.org/u/6o4 -> query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0F1FFB34540C738FDDAA0894DC404482 By KEITH BRADSHER (NYT) 826 words Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 7 , Column 1 ABSTRACT - Taiwan's opposition Nationalist Party publicly drops its demand that military be allowed to vote again after disputed presidential election, making it nearly certain that Pres Chen Shui-bian will be sworn in on May 20 for another four-year term; To read the complete article, simply click on one of the BUY NOW buttons below. You can buy this single article or, for even greater value, you can purchase this article as part of a multi-pack. You'll then have the opportunity to buy additional articles now or in the future at significant savings! Article Archive: 1996-Present multi-packs are not valid for use with Article Archive: 1851-1995 multi-packs and vice versa. How multi-packs work: A multi-pack is an archive package that saves you money by allowing you to pre-purchase a set number of articles in bulk at a reduced price. You can then debit from your multi-pack and quickly access articles from the archive at your convenience over the lifetime of the multi-pack. Please Note: Article Archive 1996-Present multi-packs are not valid for use with Article Archive: 1851-1995 multi-packs and vice versa. Once you purchase an article, you may view it as often as you like over the next 90 days. |
| csua.org/u/6o6 -> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040330/ts_nm/taiwan_election_police_dc_1 Their probe comes after the opposition Nationalist Party camp demanded an investigation by impartial foreign experts due to suspicion that the shooting, which lightly wounded Chen and Vice President Annette Lu, was staged for sympathy votes. We looked at the wound, took some photographs, and took some measurements, Cyril Wecht, county coroner for the United States city of Pittsburgh, told reporters. I see nothing there that is inconsistent with it being a gunshot wound, he said after a meeting with Chen and his doctors at the presidential office. Chen was gashed across the abdomen and Lu was wounded in the knee by two bullets fired from a homemade handgun on March 19, a day before Chen won re-election by a slim 02 percent margin. The Nationalists say sympathy votes swung the outcome, pointing to opinion polls in their favor before the attack. They want parliament to pass a special law to set up an independent investigation team, but the ruling party has rejected the plan. Police say they have no suspects in the shooting so far, but are seeking two men, one on foot and another on a motor scooter, seen on security video leaving the scene within minutes of the attack. The specialists spent much of Monday in the southern city of Tainan, where the president and vice president were shot while on an open-top jeep waving to thousands of cheering supporters who lined the streets. Wecht said he and ballistics expert Michael Haag and crime scene specialist Timothy Palmbach inspected the jeep, the crime scene, the presidents clothes and the bullets fired. They took all kinds of measurements and photographs, went to the hospital and looked at X-rays and talked with the doctors. The photographs and the information from the doctors in the hospital in Tainan, as well as the doctors whom I spoke with today who took care of him - all of that leads me to conclude that it was a fresh wound which was sustained on that day, said Wecht. The three are scheduled to return to the United States later on Tuesday to study the data and present their conclusions to forensic scientist Henry Lee, a former Taipei police captain who will join the probe on April 14. Weve done everything, said Wecht, who has disputed the official Warren Commission report on the assassination of President John F. I want to say that the authorities have been extremely cooperative, very very forthcoming. Lee, who recommended Wecht, Palmbach and Haag, heads a forensic science institute in Connecticut and has assisted in numerous United States investigations including the OJ Simpson murder trial and the 1993 suicide of White House counsel Vincent Foster. |
| csua.org/u/6o3 -> www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/03/30/international0345EST0457.DTL Lawyers for the losing candidate, Lien Chan of the Nationalist Party, filed their wide-ranging petition challenging the March 20 vote with the High Court overnight, party spokesman Justin Chou said. This petition represents our trust in the legal system, Chou told reporters. Later Tuesday, the president sent a letter to the court, agreeing that a recount was needed, said Cheng Wen-tsang, a spokesman for Chens Democratic Progressive Party. Since the president agreed to a new tally, the court can skip the hearing process. Lien has been threatening to try to invalidate the results and seek a recount since he lost the hard-fought election. Chen won by just 02 percent, or 30,000 votes out of 13 million ballots. More than 300,000 ballots were deemed invalid, and Lien wants those votes to be examined. The petition also demands answers about how many military personnel were unable to vote because they were placed on emergency alert after Chens shooting. The president and the military have said that additional personnel werent blocked from casting ballots, but the opposition suspects there was a cover-up. In addition, Liens petition demands an explanation for the bizarre shooting that lightly wounded the president on the last day of the campaign. Lien claims the shooting affected the election results by swinging last-minute sympathy votes Chens way. No suspects in the shooting have been arrested, and police have said they have no new leads. Chen already has a team of investigators working on the shooting case. Some of Americas top forensics experts joined the investigation on Monday. The Americans have been analyzing bullets, blood samples, medical photos and other evidence from the March 19 shooting that grazed Chens stomach. The bullet hit Chen as he was campaigning in an open Jeep in the southern city of Tainan. Some skeptics say its highly suspicious that the bullet conveniently ended up in the presidents jacket. Haag, told cable station TVBS that its not unheard of for bullets to be just about to pump out of somebody whos been shot, or out of their skin, and to be found in somebodys clothing. Doubters have also said that it was suspicious how one bullet pierced the Jeeps windshield and hit the vice presidents knee. |
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| tinyurl.com/3xwo6 -> www.brookings.edu/views/op-ed/fellows/amansourov20000406.htm On March 26 the people of Russia voted for law and order and for fight against government corruption, and elected a political neophyte with the long KGB background, Vladimir Putin, to be the next president of the Russian Federation. They yearned to put an end to the economic depression, chaos and lawlessness caused by social and economic upheavals in the 1990s, during the family rule of the man who had brought them democracy, Boris Yeltsin. Democratization unleashed unbridled nationalist passions both in Russia and Taiwan and undermined the long-established Leninist party-states, their command-and-control monopolistic economies and authoritarian social orders. In both countries, the process of democratization led to social dislocations aggravated by economic depression in Russia and an economic boom in Taiwan. It also allowed for the corrosive influences of intimate links between political power and financial oligarchy, between politicians and organized criminal underworlds. Democratic transition Both the Russian and Taiwanese presidential elections have historical significance which is likely to outlive their immediate outcomes. Both are the second relatively free and fair democratic elections held in the past five years, which cemented the democratic rule in these countries. Both elections symbolize the formal completion of the peaceful democratic transition that ended the 74-year monopoly on power by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union CPSU in Russia and the 88-year one-party dictatorship by the KMT in the Republic of China. Both democratic elections took place amid the rising wave of nationalism and the war or near-war-like background. The war in Chechnya increased Putins popularity dramatically, and the war talk from Beijing, paradoxically, played out in Chens favor. Both leaders campaigned on the vows to fight corruption and clean up the government, distance themselves from financial oligarchs and black gold politics and bring more honesty and fairness into governance. The last but not least commonality is that the winner in both elections was not the first choice of the US, to put it mildly. Many US officials expressed strong reservations about Putin and were wary of Chen and kept his party at the arms length. But, the paradox is that despite the US profound apprehensions, both presidents-elect may turn out to be more sympathetic to the US wishes and more accommodating of the US interests than pundits generally assume them to be. The Russian president-elect is the ultimate bureaucratic insider who rose like a meteor through the corridors of power in the Kremlin, thanks to his loyalty and personal connections with the Yeltsin family. In contrast, the Taiwanese president-elect is an outsider, the ultimate social activist who battled the KMT government in the streets and in courts most of his life and rose to power on the wave of a protest-driven popular social movement. Putin was anointed by the outgoing President Yeltsin as his official heir, whereas Chen had to fight hard against Lees official heir apparent, Lien Chan. Putin had control over most of the government-sponsored TV channels and media outlets in Russia and used it in full to smear his political opponents and positively publicize his own image during the campaign. In contrast, Chen had to break through the information blockade imposed by the KMT-controlled TV stations and newspapers in Taiwan and had to withstand the barrage of negative campaign ads sponsored by the KMT and indirectly endorsed by the Lee government. Putins campaign had bottomless government coffers at its disposal, whereas Chen had to rely on meager resources of his thrifty grass-roots supporters to overcome the lavish campaign spending by the wealthiest party in the world, the KMT. Consequently, Putin and his party, Unity, believe that the Russian people gave them a mandate to govern by themselves without entering into any coalition with any other political forces. In contrast, Chen and the DPP made reconciliatory gestures toward the losing parties and seem to be interested in attracting professional expertise from the former ruling party and in forming some kind of a coalition government in Taiwan. Judging deeds, not promises Despite his talk of reform, there is likely to be some continuity in the government priorities, senior personnel especially on the domestic front and methods of governance under the new Putin administration. In contrast, one can expect considerable changes in the government agenda, composition of the senior bureaucracy and the ways government operates in Taiwan. However, whatever the differences, with the election of Putin and Chen, the democratic process won in both countries. In the end, both Russia and Taiwan saw their democratic transitions completed with relative success in 2000. But, will Russia and Taiwan be better off under their respective new leadership? Both leaders say all the right things right now, but they will ultimately be judged by their deeds. Learning from one another In sum, even within the restricted bounds of the current official Four Nos policy of the Russian government towards Taiwan, the two nascent democracies have plenty to learn from each other and can do a lot to grow to maturity together. In order to promote greater mutual understanding, more regular parliamentary and cultural exchanges should be encouraged. It would help a great deal in deepening the expert interest toward Taiwan in Russia, if ROC foundations considered more positively Russian requests for academic research grants. It goes without saying that the private-sector economic exchanges should be vigorously promoted, as well. |
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