3/29    Kerry self-imploding. Haha. 'faith but no deeds' about Bush
        then gets kicked out of Catholic church by Bishop because
        Kerry has no deeds that are Catholic.
        \_ he should quote scripture "remove log from own eye before
           removing spinter from GWBs"
        \_ I'm just waiting for Kerry to say he's a metrosexual
        \_ Who says it's about Bush? It was a scripture quote within a church
           where no funds were collected. The Bush-Cheney campaign is way too
           paranoid. And you obviously have no idea of what the RCC considers
           good deeds. Sigh, Christians. So ignorant of what they stand for,
           so misguided. No wonder your God has spurned you.
           \_ so "current administration" != Bush? during an election?
           yeah right moron. also, I guess the Bishop has no clue
           either, since he's the one that said Kerry can't take
           Communion in the Bishop's entire state.
           \_ he said ""our present national leadership.", that sure
           isn't Bush..
        \_ Kerry's pro-choice stance has been known for years.  The RCC's
           position on abortion has been known for years.  The RCC is trying
           to have an influence on American politics; a Catholic Senator stood
           up against this, and now you're calling this a self-implosion?
           This is a fine show of his moral character, and it stands in sharp
           contrast to Bush's lip-service to the Religious Right.  Faith but
           no works, indeed.
           \_ wow. never believed how blind people are. america is going
              into the dumper soon
              \_ soon?
              \_ Yes, it's amazing that conservative Christians can be duped
                 into thinking Bush is with them when he has as much chance
                 of getting an anti-gay marriage amendment passed as they do
                 of being taken seriously.  The piper leading the blind....
           \_ I am not an expert on theology, but can you be a pro-choice
              catholic? -- ilyas
              \_ http://suewidemark.com/prochoice-catholic.htm
              \_ Most Catholics are pro-life but most Catholics I know are
                 pro-choice. You can disagree with Vatican dogma and not be
                 any less Catholic. I don't know if the same is true of, say,
                 being Seven Day Adventist or Mormon though. -- ulysses
                 \_ But see, I don't understand.  The Pope, according to
                    Catholics, is the divine representative here on this Earth.
                    Questioning his dictates is questioning God.  Wouldn't that
                    make you ... a bad, sinful Catholic? -- ilyas
                    \_ Perhaps, but you'd still be Catholic.  You're only not
                       a Catholic (of your own free will) if the Pope
                       excommunicates you.
                 \_ there are liberal and conservative catholics.
                    Liberal catholics are those who don't really practice
                    Catholicism and are just borrowing the name, like Kerry.
                    \_ So the only true Catholics are the ones who follow
                       Mel Gibson's brand of pre-Vatican II Catholicism?
                       \_ there are a lot of Orthodox Catholics out there.
                          \_ http://godhatesshrimp.com
                             \_ irrelevant
        \_ do you have the URL?
        \_ Do you really think that The Bible belongs to the GOP?
        \_ no, but GWB didn't use scripture to tear down opponent
         like Kerry does, is Kerry above us all? He's perfect in
        his religion. *cough*
        \_ all in all, Kerry said he has freedom of choice, and his
        answere is "f$ck you pope, I can do whatever i want"
        \_ i dunno, he went skiing on Sunday instead of going to mass.
        \_ One thing about Catholics is that they represent a broad spectrum
           of voters. You have gay Catholics, conservative Catholics, etc.
                                \_ aka Priests
                                   \_ isn't that the Epsicopalian bishop?