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2004/3/26-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12872 Activity:nil
3/26    I recently installed FireFox for a couple of people in the office.
        Now they're using it so much that they want to remove IE. Is this
        possible with WinXP or does it break like a crapload of things?
        \_ I managed to get rid of IE somehow... I think I went
           into the portion that lets you remove parts of added on
           windows stuff, like MSN explorer and MSN messenger,
           it sucks because now I have to test the "Click back to previous"
           website functionality when someone goes to my company's
           website, which works just fine in Firebird, but apparently
           doesn't in IE, but now I have no way of testing, sucks
           to be me.
           \_ insert cd, add program.
        \_ Isn't the help system for office built on IE?
        \_ Why would you remove it? You still need it for certain things.
           Like e.g. Microsoft's update site. In any case you can just set
           Firefox to be the default. Using Microsoft's "Set Program Access
           and Defaults" you can also disable access to IE.
        \_ I use Mozilla on mac.  There are about 20% or web sites, esp.
           foreign ones, where it does not work well or at all.
           \_ Do you find that it is better than Safari? I use Safari,
              then FireFox, then IE. IE on Mac is slow. Mac needs a decent
              browser that is bug-for-bug compatible w/ IE.
              \_ IE has been EoLed for years on Mac, but there are still sites
                 that it can view but the other 4 (Safari, Mozilla, FF, Camino)
                 can't.  Safari was fast in its beta, but ever since 1.0, it
                 has become intolerably slow while being able to view more and
                 more pages.  I really don't understand what's the issue.
                 FF still needs work, and Mozilla still has certain trivial
                 interface oddities.  Mozilla is the only one I can configure
                 to warn me about sending unencrypted text.  All 5 browser
                 together cannot view some pages viewable by IE on PC.  I have
                 never used Opera and haven't touched Omni browser for ages.
                 An unsolved problem of using so many browsers is the bookmark.
        \_ I'm currently looking at ways to 'sandbox' or otherwise restrict
           IE as massively as possible.  Drop me a mail if interested.  -John
           \_ uh, run traffic through a proxy and drop anything with IE in the
              http headers?
              \_ Simple, pragmatic, doable, easy to get past management in
                 a large company.  I like the way you're thinking.  Try again,
                 young padawan.  -John
                 \_ It's no different that whatever wacky thing you're thinking
                    of.  The end result is the same, IE is blocked or otherwise
                    restricted as massively as possible.  How about you share
                    with all of us nobodies what your fantastic uber Jedi
                    solution is?
                    \_ I don't have one, and my goal is not to block IE
                       but reduce risks inherent from running such a piece
                       of shit (and no, I can't currently get around it) with
                       so much potential for fucking things up.  Disabling IE
                       period is pretty simple--restricting the damage it
                       can do through any number of existing and theoretical
                       vulnerabilities and still being able to use it for
                       things like MSUpdate/SUS is not.  Sorry for not
                       stating the complete problem initially.  -John
                       \_ Not to put a dent on your enthusiasm, I have
                          heard that if you installed the ActiveX plugin
                          for Mozilla/Firebird/Firefox, Mozilla will also
                          be prone to all sort of security issue.
                          Can you or anyone verify that?        kngharv
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