3/25 When I using mutt and access IMAP folder at a remote server, how do
I save an attachment to the local machine? I used s(ave) but could
find the file neither on the local machine nor in my remote IMAP
folder. Where did it go?
\_ I figured it out. Did it before but forgot. Why can't mutt
be more user friendly?
\_ I find mutt to be an excellent balance between power and
usability. Internally consistent and well defined context
help via '?'. if you (s)aved it, it likely put it in your
Mail folder. If you want to know where it's gonna go, use
an absolute path.
\_ Why can't it have a console based menu, and a modal dialog
for saving file? If I dedicate my life to memorizing all
the details of every unix app. then I won't complain, but
I use an app to achieve something else and there are so
many things more worthy of memorzing than all the key binding
and, relevant in this case, format for reference remote
and local paths. Help from ? is very very poor. I am not
saying that I am incapable of understanind it and the online
manual. I managed to figure things out last time, after
spending a lot of time parsing them. But it seems every once
in a while I have to use another feature I have to waste tons
of time again.
\_ hit ? for your menu. Then hit "q" to get out of your menu
"mode" and hit the key you want. Sounds like you want that
other "tree" program.
\_ just to be clear, I mean elm.
http://www.sao.nrc.ca/imsb/rcsg/documents/basic/img18.gif
\_ sigh. why can't they organize the commands into
trees of pull-down menus? I hate pine, but people who
like the ? thing are just like the shiites who whip
themselves bloody to celebrate.
\_ The ? thing lets you learn something, then gets
out of your way so you can get things done. I
guess I just don't understand what's so difficult
about it. --scotsman
\_ I am not against learning, and I use console
based unix programs all the time. I once sat
down with a emacs manual and "learned" a lot of
commands. Some days later I forgot most of them.
I still use emacs, vi etc but I can only remember
a key-binding if I use more it than 3 times a day.
300 days a year. For everything else I use the
on-screen ?, man, info, or the html/paper manual.
Given enough time I can always find the answer
but I rarely have that time. I don't think I am
the only one who has neither Alzheimer nor foto-
graphic memory for key-bindings that neither has
rational basis nor adheres to a uniform guideline.
I would rather spend my time, effort or brain cell
to learn Sanskrit or argue with psb. I hate eye
candy GUI bloatware but I don't like whistling
in morse code either and don't know what deep
wisdom lies in key-bindings hidden behind ?.
\_ Each person prefers a different set of keybinds
therefore, each programmer sets up defaults
as they prefer. You *can* change your keybinds
in mutt so they act like pine, e.g. Rebind the
keys so they make sense to you. I don't know
what else to tell you.
\_ again, use elm. It's very mutt-like, since mutt was
based on it. That little menu thing with the keys
you can set your 'expertise' level and it will go
away/reduce itself, etc. It's on the (o)ptions
screen.
\_ elm is long dead. no?
\_ depends on your definition of "dead"...
it may not be y2k compliant, (only thing I've
noticed is the year wrong) but it still works
fine. The gremlins haven't eaten the
computer, it hasn't started randomly filing
my email in /dev/null.
\_ what's this "user friendly" concept?
\_ It's a comic about sysadmins and dust bunnies.
\_ another menu driven text gui mail client victim... use nmh. |
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