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2004/3/18-19 [Finance/Investment] UID:12747 Activity:moderate
3/18    I flipped open my WSJ today and there are two articles on the
        front page, one saying that commodity prices are shooting
        through the roof, the other saying that asian countries may
        be slowly diverting their trade surplus investment from US
        treasuries to their own economies.  Does that mean inflation
        is coming and interest rates will be rising?
        \_ I dunno. If you do, you could be the next Soros. But I think
           it is a pretty safe bet that interest rates will be rising
           sooner or later.
            \_ It's not enought just to know that inflation is coming.
               You also need to know how to make money off that.
               \_ If you think bond interest rates will rise, you could
                  short bonds.  If you're wrong, you're screwed, of course.
                  If you think there will be inflation, buy some stable
                  commodity's futures on margin.
            \_ Soros is a scumbag.
               \_ Mmmm.. unsolicited insult.  Go motd.
                  \_ unsolicited?  since when are insults ever solicited?
                     you are a fucking idiot.  you managed to solicit an
                     insult with your incredible stupidity.
                     \_ I will explain.  You tossed a pointless statement
                        into a discussion with nothing to tie it in.  Do
                        you like being ineffective?  Or do you just like to
                        rant?  Maybe Tourette's?
                  \_ fuck you! -motd
                     \_ Done. -yermom
               \_ just because he tossed millions to http://moveon.org to create
                  negative ads about President Bush...
                  \_ no because he made billions destroying economies.
                     \_ what soros did to se asia economies was fantastic.
                        force those economies to become more transparent
                        and less corrupt.       - se asian
                        \_ hahaha yes how ethical of him to grab a few
                           billion along the way.  im sure he did it for the
                           children.
                           \_ nothing unethical about it.  if it's un-
                              ethical, then all traders and the whole
                              free market system is unethical.
                           \_ someone is going to do it
        \_ the biggest US treasury bond holders are Japan and China.  If they
           stop buying US assets, the US will run out of money.  The only
           way to seduce (for lack of better word) investment back in US
           would be to raise the interest rate, but this would come at the
           cost of the domestic economy, and everyone who has to pay off their
           loan either in mortgage or credit card.  It really comes down to
           whether foreigners continue to "lend" to us.  (Of course, this
           excludes the political and military chips we have which no one
           else in this world has).
           \_ raising interest rates will have *zero* effect on current
              mortgage holders or most CC holders who have locked in rates.
              so you think japan is going to do what?  invest in their own
              zero rate bonds?  go to the EU?  China is going to do the same?
              very nutty....  i love the motd.  some of the most pompus are
              the least informed but don't let that stop you.
              the least informed but don't let that stop you.
              \_ Most CC holders have locked in rates???
              \_ yea but I have noticed that in the past, people have been
                 getting 30 or 15 year fixed but these few years, it
                 seems that everyone I asked has been getting 5-year
                 ARM so they may very well get hit if interest rate goes
                 up.  As for Japan and China, they may use the money to
                 bail out their debt-laden banks, which is one way
                 to invest in their local economies.
                 \_ anyone who gets an ARM when fixed interest rates are
                    \_ the problem is if things turn bad, it's going
                       to hurt the whole economy.
                    below 6% is a fucking moron who gets what he deserves.
                 \_ do you understand that an ARM doesn't instantly go up?
                    a 5 year arm is rate locked for (guess what?) 5 years.
                    after that the rate is allowed to rise a small amount
                    every year until it hits a maximum amount which is not
                    allowed to be too far above current rates.  people getting
                    5 year arms are either selling in the next 5-7 years, are
                    putting the money saved back into the loan which will
                    dramatically reduce the total cost over term or are
                    blazingly stupid.  As for J/C, their banks should *not*
                    be saved.  Especially in Japan, there is a direct link
                    between their multiple attempts to waste money trying to
                    save their inefficient and poorly run banks and their
                    current dismal economy which has been in the dumps for
                    more than 10 years.
                    \_ there are many ways to "save" the banks.  even
                       if you do it the right way (like in the US S&L
                       bailout), it requires money, money potentially
                       diverted from US treasuries purchases.  As for
                       5 year ARMS, many people are already a few years
                       into it, and the interest rate can go up by
                       like 2.5% at the 5 year juncture which is a 50%
                       jump if the rate is originally 5%.  Many
                       people are stretching thin on mortages, buying
                       bigger houses than they should, thinking
                       that housing price will increase and they can
                       just sell and make a profit after 5 years.
                       We saw plenty of "blazingly stupid" behavior
                       during the internet bubble, so I am not
                       surprised at all.
                       \_ if they're a few years into an ARM, they can get
                          \_ ARMs were not very popular, but are getting
                             more popular. http://www.dqnews.com
                          a fixed-rate mortgage at probably the same rate
                          they're already paying, so they should refinance.
                          Do you have any documentation of the idea that
                          there's a huge glut of stupid ARM holders?  -tom
                          \_ ARMs were not very popular, but are getting
                             more popular. http://www.dqnews.com
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